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The most Socially Selective schools in England.

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smokepole Wed 31-Dec-14 21:46:23

Here is a list of the most socially selective state schools in England , total no of pupils entitled to free school meals over the last six years. Dept Of Education Characteristics

1. Cranbrook School Kent 5
1. Borlase Grammar Bucks 5
3. Bishop Words Wilts 7
4. Pate's Grammar Gloucs 8
5. Colchester Royal Essex 10
5. Caistor Grammar Lincs 10
5. King Edward Louth Lincs 10
8. Adams Grammar Shrop 11
9. Colchester High Essex 12
9. Kendrick Grammar Berks 12
9. Dr Challinor High Bucks 12
12. Alyesbury Gram Bucks 13
12. Beaconsfield High Bucks 13
12. Newport High Shrop 13
15. Stratford Gram Warks 14
15.Skinners Sch Kent 14
17.Chelmsford High Essex 15
17. Judd Sch Kent 15
17. St Olaves Kent 15
20. Alcester Gram Warks 16
21. Tonbridge Gram Kent 17
22. Kegs Chelms Essex 19
22. Lancaster Girls Lancs 19
24. Skipton High Yorks 20
24. Tunbridge W Gir Kent 20
26 Hockerill Anglo Essex 21
27. Ripon Gram Yorks 22
27. Ermysteds Yorks 22
29. Altrincham Boys Ches 23
30. St Bernards Slough Berks 24

smokepole Wed 31-Dec-14 21:49:57

Mistake Reading School Berks 9 pupils so is in 5th on the list !.

Sparklingbrook Wed 31-Dec-14 21:58:34

So do you have a question or something? What do you want to know?

Iggly Wed 31-Dec-14 22:00:23

Any school that is selective will also be socially selective. Be it by academic or religion. They always favour those who can play the game.

HouseWhereNobodyLives Wed 31-Dec-14 22:00:57

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Wed 31-Dec-14 22:02:13

Wonder why Henrietta Barnett is not on there.

handcream Wed 31-Dec-14 22:03:17

Sorry, a number of these are grammar schools, of course they are going to be selective......

What is your point I wonder, Slough is not a particularly nice area tbh.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Wed 31-Dec-14 22:03:42

Almost all Home Counties isn't it. Not a single London school, unless I'm not reading the list correctly.

AuntieStella Wed 31-Dec-14 22:04:04

Also, for those which are state boarding schools (which have a lot of boarding Forces pupils, who are eligible for pupil premium but not FSM) are the stats collected on day pupils or whole school?

And how does the FSM rate compare to proxy measures for poverty for the postcodes in their admissions footprints? Because if a school stands in an affluent area, it's FSM figure might be both low and totally representative of its neighbourhood.

Sparklingbrook Wed 31-Dec-14 22:04:30

What is the OP trying to say? Sorry for not understanding.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Wed 31-Dec-14 22:06:05

Sorry I take it back - just re-read the list from bottom to top and realise its not just Home Counties! Plus TBH my English geography is quite shocking!

Iggly Wed 31-Dec-14 22:06:32

St olaves technically in London (zone 6, Orpington!)

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Wed 31-Dec-14 22:07:19

Sparkling - no idea - hopefully s/he will be back to clarify grin

HeartsTrumpDiamonds Wed 31-Dec-14 22:07:52

Thanks iggly blush

Sparklingbrook Wed 31-Dec-14 22:08:43

I have 2 DSs in Secondary Education Hearts so I am in the right section I double checked.. Just worried what the hidden message is. confused grin

Theas18 Wed 31-Dec-14 22:10:50

Don't think the op has a point to make. Maybe we were supposed to be outraged?

I'm more interested ( and glad that I'm not applying now as a non fsm/pp parent) that the local grammars have added an extra class in all the schools to attempt to make them the tool for social mobility grammars are always supposed to be. However in order to attempt to fill the extra 30 places with pp kids there is a substantially lower qualifying score for them.

Surely doesn't this just bring in a band of less able kids ?

Eltonjohnsflorist Wed 31-Dec-14 22:12:30

How is Orpington technically London?

Mistlewoeandwhine Wed 31-Dec-14 22:13:32

No because 11+ doesn't bring in the most able students but those with m/class backgrounds who can afford tutors and give their children loads of advantages.

Camolips Wed 31-Dec-14 22:15:45

Hockerill is Herts.

Bakeoffcakes Wed 31-Dec-14 22:16:23

Theas- it might just allow those dc who are very bright but haven't had any individual tutoring.
It's a great idea.

SanityClause Wed 31-Dec-14 22:16:57

Orpington is in London Borough of Bromley, so technically in London.

Also, St Olaves is historically a London school. Google it.

Iggly Wed 31-Dec-14 22:17:02

How? Because they vote in the London mayoral elections and are within a London borough, that's how.

handcream Wed 31-Dec-14 22:23:58

I wish there was a grammar school in every town, here in Bucks they are just for the people who can afford the tutoring.

Theas18 Wed 31-Dec-14 22:24:09

Bakeoff I do hope that's what happens. The test is supposed to be un teachable but I'm sure unfair advantage comes from tutoring yep

moonrocket Wed 31-Dec-14 22:25:00

Theas- the theory is that without the coaching which their family supposedly "could not afford", they will get a lower score than non-FSM children.
And it's 25 extra, I believe. wink

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