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13 plus Common Pre-test St Pauls and Westminster.

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timmytoes Thu 09-Jan-14 21:06:21

The new Common Pre test for St Pauls and Westminster has thrown up some very puzzling results at our school. Does any one else have any comments on the new format.

KingscoteStaff Wed 11-Feb-15 20:12:43

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Frontpaw Wed 11-Feb-15 12:06:32

Can anyone enlighten me on what type of questions SPS ask at the interview and what the English and maths tests are like?

Go on the ISEB website and look at the syllabus for each subject. Your DS will have to offer level 3 papers and from memory the syllabus lists the topics for the level 1, 2 and 3 papers so you will know what to cover.

You might want to look at Galore Park textbooks. Most prep schools will prepare hard for the exams. Is your son in a prep?

WorkingItOutAsIGo Mon 01-Sep-14 09:52:50

Hi roula- it's been 6 years since ds1 did CE but in those days the CE papers were standard and issued by the ISEB. Papers available on their website. What was different was not the paper but the marking.

Your DS ought to be at a prep school preparing him for CE? They should be doing plenty of practice and no tutor needed unless your DS has a particular problem with a subject.

roula Sun 31-Aug-14 13:45:55

Hi. DS has a conditional offer to St Paul's and doing CE this year.
I am somewhat confused about the whole CE thing. I understand his papers will be on a different level than most schools. How can I obtain past papers for St. Paul's? And can only a tutor prepare him for it or can one do it at home just working through past papers?

Touchlinedad Sat 31-May-14 10:43:42

Thanks WIOAIG and Knickerbocker - the insurance ones aren't needed now and SPS don't even give you the opportunity to say yes yet nor do they demand the deposit yet. It was just Tonbridge of the ones we applied to that asked for a Year 6 payment to secure your choice of house.

It's taken DS1 a while to plump for SPS as Tonbridge had clearly bowled him over - especially the fabulous sports facilities, cinema rooms in the houses (we don't run to one of those) and the prospect of the kit fairies. Quite how he thinks his current stuff gets washed is clearly not on his radar. Thankfully now at least half the fixtures will be a short trek (for us) to Barnes instead of a belt down to Kent.

More importantly for him he can join in the banter with his mates with a simple short answer now that he knows where he's going.

The process was seemingly painless for him (and the other boys) but the wait for the interview was agonising for us as poor parents. I for one will be thrilled when Year 6 is over - it's been worse than anything I remember about school / university & college interviews.

knickerbocker17 Sun 25-May-14 20:19:43

Deposits and Insurance
Our headmaster told us that so-called non-refundable deposits are fully refundable IF the school can and does fill the space you give up. My DS was given offers at KCS and CLSB. We have accepted one but we await his interview at SPS next week. Even if we had the choice, it's not absolutely clear which we'd choose.
Touchlinedad, I'd check since I think it's worth paying an offer especially if it gives you a decent insurance policy.

WorkingItOutAsIGo Mon 19-May-14 10:28:30

Touchlinedad - many congratulations to you and your DS and indeed - I expect we'll see you on the touchline every Saturday afternoon! We are in the gap between DS1 leaving and DS2 going, and it's odd to have our Saturday afternoons back!

Touchlinedad Thu 15-May-14 18:42:08

WIOAIG - see you there in 2016 smile

Relieved of SW London

WorkingItOutAsIGo Sat 05-Apr-14 10:24:28

If boarding matters to you, i really would look very carefully - Westminster does have a lot more and is set up like a boarding school (though note people go home at weekends) whereas SPS is a day school where a small no board. Am sure they are happy but its not a full boarding experience.

wrinkletwinkle Fri 04-Apr-14 16:23:06

Thanks a lot dear..
Yeah we will be going to visit the school as we are thinking for boarding option as wellsmile

Fingers crossed for St. Paul'ssmile

WorkingItOutAsIGo Thu 03-Apr-14 21:22:45

Well done to your son. The schools are radically different and if he is lucky enough to get an offer at both you must visit them again to see which one he prefers - generally boys know where they think they will 'fit' best.

For SPS interview, fill in the form they send and that shapes the discussion, be prepared for 15 mins maths and 10 mins English test before the interviews. But its not an interview you can prepare for other than knowing what you like and why.

Best of luck!

wrinkletwinkle Thu 03-Apr-14 12:46:29

Hi everyone,
was really amaze with all the comments..
Kids are really doing hard work to get into these schools...
Congratulation to the boys and girls and their proud parents who got the offers.

I also need an advice from you all as I am new to this education system in UK.
My son got offer from Westminster and got in the interview date for St Paul's ...
So lets see how the St Paul's output will be.

Whats the basic difference in both schools???
Also do we need any special preparation for St. Paul's interview and test?

My son is equally neutral for both schools..But want to choose right school for him.

Please do advice me...

Touchlinedad Mon 17-Mar-14 11:44:13

Congrats on the SPS offer WIOAIG - still waiting on an interview date here.

It's tough on those going for SPS still waiting on the interview as all their chums have had the news on Westminster, Kings or have secured places to move on at 11+ etc.

He's got into the other schools he applied to but can't really celebrate those offers as we're too miserly to pay the non-refundable deposits just in case SPS does come off.

WorkingItOutAsIGo Sat 15-Mar-14 18:27:23

My DS rejected by Westminster and results from his prep school surprising. The boy I thought was a dead cert is waiting listed. V tough clearly! Well done to those who were successful.

But happily my DS got the place at SPS which was his heart's desire so all's well that ends well.

mariehubble1 Sat 08-Mar-14 15:24:17

Yep My son got the offer lettersmile

Eastpoint Sat 08-Mar-14 08:39:27

Friend's son mentioned up thread received a Westminster offer yesterday, they're taking it.

Mamala123 Fri 07-Mar-14 22:10:32

Anyone get Westminster offer letters today for 13+ 2016 entry?

Kalg Mon 03-Mar-14 21:08:11

No news from Westminster yet. I heard also that we would hear sometime in March. I would also be interested in what to expect for St Pauls.

Harassedbutoptimistic1 Mon 03-Mar-14 14:08:39

Hi I'm new to Mumsnet! I was just wondering if anyone had heard back from Westminster yet? I believe the results are due out at the beginning of March, according to the letter that I received. Additionally, has anyone any idea of what is expected on the St Paul's maths and English short tests and any help with types of interview questions would be gratefully received!

FIFIBEBE Sat 22-Feb-14 22:22:52

Wow, good luck to all your boys. Mine is about to finish at SPS and things have certainly changed in the 5 years or so since he got in.

mariehubble1 Sat 22-Feb-14 22:08:41

Congratulations smile

Kalg Sat 22-Feb-14 18:18:04

My DS has an offer from CLSB. So relieved that we have an offer now. Hopefully the wait for Westminster will be less stressful now.

mariehubble1 Fri 21-Feb-14 12:14:40

Its long waiting for an interview and again long long long processes to get the admission in the schoolsad

Kalg Thu 20-Feb-14 20:32:39

Thanks for the clarification - that's helpful.

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