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Y7 and already done GCSE and A level Maths

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Sally65 Sat 29-Jun-13 13:20:40

I am tremendously frustrated about not being able to find a suitable school for my DD aged 12. She was last in school at Christmas of Y2 but she stopped going due to refusal over boredom. Funny thing is her teacher at that point did not think she was at all smart since my daughter's boredom was so intense she just switched off entirely. Anyway, I let her stay home and play and then decided when she was turning 11 to get her caught up for secondary. In just 4 months doing no more than 30 minutes a day and working alone, my daughter completed the whole GCSE maths syllabus and begged me to let her take the exam. I reluctantly let her and she scored an A star this past January still aged 11. Then she studied by herself for A level maths and did C1, C2 and C3 and has probably done very well since he was getting 95% + on past papers. Her ability and standard in all subjects is very high. However, I cannot find any suitable school for her - no local school will accelerate her. I am a single mother in a difficult financial situation so I cannot afford the private sector. We live in NW London. Any ideas please.

ZZZenagain Sat 29-Jun-13 13:25:59

Gosh I don't know. In an way it is a problem I would like to have considering my dd's attitude to maths - but I realise it is a serious problem for you.

Have you thought about getting her IQ tested and maybe seeing if Mensa can give you some advice? I know in the US they have schools especially geared to children with a very high IQ but I don't know of anything similar in the UK.

How is she with other subjects? If she went off to study maths say sometime soon, would she be at a level in her other subjects and emotionally at the point where she might be able to cope?

isitsnowingyet Sat 29-Jun-13 13:29:05

You let her stay home and play from year 2 to year 6? Do you mean you have home-schooled in that time?

dickiedavisthunderthighs Sat 29-Jun-13 13:29:57

How is her competence in other subjects? How is her literacy? I'd she's a strong all rounder then you should look into scholarships in private education. If she's behind elsewhere which is likely if she's had no proper education for a number of years I think you're going to struggle.

ZZZenagain Sat 29-Jun-13 13:34:40

I have just seen that you posted her ability and standard in all subjects is quite high. Sorry I missed that first time round.

I really don't know, it is a shame if there is not some good possibility for a dc like her to do accelerated exams and move on to tertiary education. Hope someone has some good advice for you. I think if you continue to HE, do a couple of GCSEs a year so she has those under her belt and try in the meantime to get a scholarship at an independent school so she can do Alevels there and be generally prepared to apply for university.

happygardening Sat 29-Jun-13 13:40:59

Many top London girls schools are offering generous bursaries e.g St Paul's Girls ( thats where Id start) ring them tell them about her and see if they can help.

Zipitydooda Sat 29-Jun-13 14:38:33

If I was in that position I think I'd phone around the independent schools and explain my situation re DD and finances. A lot of these schools have scholarship funds and the right school would be interested in having her I'm sure. Good luck!

Sally65 Sat 29-Jun-13 14:50:34

During her time out of education (between Y2 and Y6 before I started home educating her formally) she read avidly, more than a book a day on average. She also watched many documentaries so she has a great vocabulary, general knowledge and writing style.

The problem with independent schools is that they have no bursaries between 11 and 16 except for current students who fall on hard times. Does anyone know a goo public school with a full bursary at age 13? Though I think I would miss her too much to send her away to school.

I would not want her starting uni early because she is still a kid, and very average for age emotionally.

bico Sat 29-Jun-13 15:07:25

Which independent schools have you spoken to? I don't know about girls schools but all of the senior co-ed schools I've spoken to offer bursaries for new pupils. Some link them to scholarships and others don't. It sounds as if your dd wouldn't have any problem obtaining a scholarship so would certainly be able to get a bursary if your income level qualified.

Eastpoint Sat 29-Jun-13 18:29:54

I agree with Bico, as far as I'm aware all the major girls' schools offer bursaries for those with qualifying income levels. Some also offer scholarships of a high value, eg Francis Holland over a fee reduction of 25%. However if your daughter was 11 in January she would be entering year 7 this September and all the entrance exams for those places were in January this year. I think you will need to contact all the schools, speak to their admissions departments and ask their advice. Make a list of boarding schools and work through it. You could use the school league tables to work out which schools achieve the highest academic results, however the schools around the top 50-75 might offer a better financial package as they will be keener on attracting your daughter.

VivaLeBeaver Sat 29-Jun-13 18:33:33

Would you consider boarding school? There's Christs Hospital which has a lot of bursaries.

happygardening Sat 29-Jun-13 18:34:41

OP there are schools which offer generous bursaries to new pupils and although if your daughter is going into yr 7 she's missed the normal cut off points for applying I would still get on the phone to a few bursars. As I've already said I'd start with St Paul's Girls if I was you. Also look up girls day school trust.

englishteacher78 Sat 29-Jun-13 18:35:43

Accelerating in subjects other than maths (and sometimes modern foreign languages if the student is bilingual) is rarely done. If that is what you're looking for be prepared for disappointed. If you're looking for your DD to be stretched beyond the curriculum then you may have more luck.

LIZS Sat 29-Jun-13 18:45:11

I don't know of any independent schools which wouldn't consider a new child for a bursary in intervening years, assuming the criteria were met . Many have an intake at 13+, not just the "public" ones. Have you actually approached any , you need to speak to the bursar and admissions office.

Sally65 Sat 29-Jun-13 19:59:44

If anyone knows a school that would let her study Further Maths A level (and possibly Additional Further Maths) whilst still in KS$ age group, please let me know. St Paul's is too far for us. We are in Harrow.

NLCS have already confirmed no bursaries available.

Talkinpeace Sat 29-Jun-13 21:32:57

Scarily I will utterly echo what Happygardening has said
you need to start parking your tanks on the lawn of the top girls schools

NLCS - Xenias girls went there : go see them and point out that this is less a charity case than them being able to take the credit for your daughters results
SPG : again, talk to them and see if they can help you with travel
otherwise the GDST may have ideas
and do be willing to consider boarding
Christs Hospital is odd but in a good way
other boarding schools might be willing to let her fly
and you'd then be free to do your thing in term times

Wiifitmama Sat 29-Jun-13 21:41:26

Alternatively, if you want to continue home educating her, why not let her try some of the many free online university courses now available. Like Coursera.

Sally65 Sat 29-Jun-13 23:01:51

All great advice. In fact we are already using Coursera, EdX, Udacity and Canvas to source phenomenal courses of study. The only real thing lacking is social interaction which she now needs as she is entering adolescence.

Wiifitmama Sat 29-Jun-13 23:02:45

You can get the social interaction with other h

Wiifitmama Sat 29-Jun-13 23:05:39

Sorry- posted too soon. With other home educated children. You live in an area with a very large number of home ed families. There is a harrow home ed email list and a north London one.

bico Sat 29-Jun-13 23:53:13

What about Wycombe Abbey?

savoirfaire Sun 30-Jun-13 00:00:02

All the indies have some forms of bursaries available - they have to - but you may be too late as they will have a quota in each year group. It would have been better to get her to sit 11+ exams. Look at schools which have 13+ entry and you may be better off. Definitely talk to bursars of the schools directly for advice.

Just a note of caution. I totally understand your worries about keeping her advanced etc. I was accelerated as school. As was my mother. I wouldn't recommend it to others tbh. While at Oxbridge I also met a 15 yo who was there when the rest of us were much older. Very awkward, not enjoying it at all.

Personally, would suggest getting her into a good school and perhaps letting things even out a bit. A good school will accelerate her in the areas where she needs it (although not necessarily to the extent you might believe appropriate) and help her advance in other areas, e.g. social, or things like science, art, history, music - etc. If she is very bright she will continue to be very bright and capable even if she (in your opinion) 'coasts' for a while. Life is a marathon not a sprint.

WouldBeHarrietVane Sun 30-Jun-13 00:04:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Xpatmama88 Sun 30-Jun-13 00:26:02

I agree with Bico, do contact Wycombe Abbey, a great girl boarding school for the very talented, and high achiever.

richmal Sun 30-Jun-13 07:14:44

I thought state schools were obliged to provide an education suited to the level of the child.

My dd is in a similar situation. She is is in home ed and will be looking to do GCSE maths next year in the equivalent of year 6. We are hoping she passes the 11+. We would then want her to follow A level maths in year 7 and from initial enquiries this would be possible.

Are there any grammar schools in your area? They do sometimes get places in higher years.

Also the UKMT maths challenges offer something other than simply accellerating through levels.

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