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Level 6 in SATs

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VickySS Wed 08-May-13 21:58:54

Does anyone know what percentage of children have achieved (historically) level 6 at key stage 2 in Maths?

Sticklebug Wed 08-May-13 22:13:23

No, but interested to know as my DD I one of 6 in her year sitting this next week and 3 of them are also sitting the L6 English. My DD has told me that the pass mark for L6 maths was 28 in 2011 and 32 last year.

BooksandaCuppa Wed 08-May-13 23:17:29

Last year was the first year - since a gap of about ten years - that there has been a Level 6 test. Teachers could assess children as level 6 but there wasn't an externally assessed test. (To put it in context, in the grammar school I work in around 2 out of 120 children come up teacher assessed as l6 in reading and 2 in maths per year - up to 2012, that is)...

I think last year the percentages were tiny (less than 0.1% or something) because most schools weren't really geared up for it etc.

A lot more are taking them this year as it seems level 5 isn't good enough any more. Schools, children and parents are all a lot more geared up for them.

Arisbottle Wed 08-May-13 23:21:34

I think my daugter's school has three classes, so about 90 children and about 5 are sitting the level 6 test for maths and none or literacy. From what my dd tells me they only expect one or two to the level 6.

noblegiraffe Thu 09-May-13 08:42:14

At my secondary we had under 20 level 6s coming to us in a high achieving (but mixed ability) year group of 220, but as it was the first year we would expect this to increase quite a lot as primary schools gear up preparation.

lljkk Thu 09-May-13 08:44:57

0.5% last year, I found the stat recently. TES site, I think.

lljkk Thu 09-May-13 08:45:45

maybe 2.5% for English, or 3%?

Katryn Thu 09-May-13 09:42:43

My DS took level 6 in maths and English last year, and was one of about 4 in a class of thirty who took it and passed.

VickySS Thu 09-May-13 20:53:39

Thanks all, my DS has 3 class intake in his year and around 25 are sitting level 6 maths, less for English. In the mocks around half achieved the level 6 (including DS). As a July baby I'm pleased that he can help disprove the myth that summer babies struggle in school. No extra tution either. Hubby and I joked that, liked twins, the maths ability must have skipped a generation (us) ;-)) Good luck to all of your children who are sitting the SATs next week.

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 21:31:27

DD4 is in a tiny primary school where four year groups are taught in one class and of the six pupils in Y6, five are predicted L6 in Maths (I've just quizzed her), two are predicted L6 in reading and one is predicted L6 in writing. The rest are all high 5's in reading and writing except for the one child who is dyslexic. I find this odd in the context of this thread, which makes L6 sound rare. Of course I do get that these are only predictions and may not be attained.

QuintessentialOHara Thu 09-May-13 21:33:47

My son got 65% on Level 6 maths on the mock tests, does this mean he would pass if they let him sit it next week?

VickySS Thu 09-May-13 21:45:27

Yellowtip that would seem very unusual. Ask the other parents in your child's class if their children sat the level 6 paper last Thursday afternoon? It's a separate paper to the one most children do.

QuintessentialOHara Very close either way, depends on what the government decide will be the pass mark when the papers are marked. I think it's expected to be about 68% but I'm not 100% sure. Hopefully someone else on here may have a definite answer. To be honest I would still be happy if DS gets a 5 as that's really good compared to the average.

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 21:52:46

I thought the L6 papers were in a week or two? DD4 is certainly taking L6 for everything, as she's apparently predicted L6 in everything. I thought whatever they did last week was a mock?

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 21:54:16

But no way am I asking other parents!! Tbh I don't really mind what she gets, I don't think it will radically affect her future.

5madthings Thu 09-May-13 21:58:46

My ds2 is taking the level 6 maths paper. Out of a year group of about 45? Maybe a fee more eight of them are taking the higher paper.

No idea re English.

My ds2 is also a summer born boy smile and he didn't get his maths skills from me, he has always been very good at maths and has amazing abilities to do maths in his head, he is very quick and finds it easy, its just his 'thing' iykwim. Hr likes to do maths for fun

5madthings Thu 09-May-13 21:59:09

The SATs are next week?

Myliferocks Thu 09-May-13 22:03:53

My DD3 is doing the level 6 papers next week in English and maths.
8 children are doing the English level 6 and 9 are doing the maths.
Out of these,5 are doing both English and maths.iyswim
Her year group has about 125 in it.

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 22:15:14

It looks as though either DD4's teacher is overly bold or other teachers are too cautious.

UnnamedFemaleProtagonist Thu 09-May-13 22:17:54

My DD is doing the maths but isn't expecting to get it. She is expecting the reading and writing though. The writing is based on an assessment of the last 4 weeks work I believe. There are 6 DC in her year group of 25 doing them both.

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 22:18:59

Does anyone here know exactly when these L6 papers are? Or are all papers taken on the same day? And what was it that happened last week? Just a mock?

Myliferocks Thu 09-May-13 22:21:47

DD3 said that the level 3-5 papers will be in the morning and the level 6 papers in the afternoon.
I think she said her SATs start on Monday for the week.

VickySS Thu 09-May-13 22:43:56

5madthings - have to start a support group for summer born babies not being disadvantaged ;-))

Yellowtip - I agree with you, we have secondary school to go through yet ;-)

Agree with Myliferocks re the exam timetable - so envious of you if life is as your name says ;-))

UnnamedFemaleProtagonist - not sure you are correct about the 4 week assessment. English is a separate exam assessed by government appointed assessors not your daughter's teachers. Exam is set by the government and will be sat next week.

SATs start on Monday, mocks (based on 2012 papers) were done last week.

Yellowtip Thu 09-May-13 22:51:11

So is English L6 new for this year?

VickySS Thu 09-May-13 23:00:24

Think it was reintroduced last year after about a 10 year break. Very few children put through for it as it really needs a deep knowledge of understanding comprehension and providing a very high understanding of reading and writing. Our head said last year only 0.03% of children achieved a level 6 in English, maths slightly easier.

lljkk Fri 10-May-13 07:38:58

L6 papers are same day as the other tests, just in the afternoon, half an hour each, I will find link to the schedule, just a sec.

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