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helenjackson2 Sun 17-Mar-13 21:10:11


Viviennemary Sun 17-Mar-13 21:35:31

I wouldn't be happy about this either. Spending a fortune on children's education comes with no guarantees.

pooka Sun 17-Mar-13 21:36:27

Ha ha!

Bunbaker Sun 17-Mar-13 21:36:36

Can she get a Saturday job or job in the holidays at a hairdressers salon so that she can see the reality of how much hard work it is?

MIL did a similar thing with SIL who wanted to drop out of school before her O levels (it was in the 1960s when the school leaving age was 15). She sent SIL to waitress in a pub. SIL hated it and MIL told her that this would be the type of job she would get if she didn't do her O levels. It worked.

ArtexMonkey Sun 17-Mar-13 21:36:48

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

noddyholder Sun 17-Mar-13 21:38:00

I hope you haven,t told her you think her choices are stupid and idiotic

Beamur Sun 17-Mar-13 21:38:46

People working in hair and beauty apparently have some of the highest levels of job satisfaction....
But, before she commits one way or another, it would be a very good idea to try some work experience in this field first. It is hard work and can also be very low paid - especially at first.

Portofino Sun 17-Mar-13 21:42:03

I wanted to do a BTEC in Travel and Tourism and it wasn't allowed as there was no shorthand typing stuff included. I did the shorthand (never used since), typng is still a bit useful and am STILL a frustrated travel agent. I think I should be running Virgin Holidays or the like. Instead I am doing something I hate, She should get to choose how she wants to waste her life being an adult and all.

NinthWave Sun 17-Mar-13 21:46:23



Portofino Sun 17-Mar-13 21:50:23


freddiemisagreatshag Sun 17-Mar-13 21:51:54

What is the world coming to? It's a disgrace. You should lock her up and refuse her use of hair straighteners and make up until she comes to her senses. Something will have to be done. forthwith.

HorsesDogsNails Sun 17-Mar-13 21:52:29

Beamur not apparently, actually! I am a Nail Technician and I love my job - every day.... I am 42, educated and worked for 16 years in marketing for a large financial services company - would I go back to that? Hell no!!!

People massively under-estimate how difficult it is to be both skilled as a therapist and savvy enough to run a business.

GrimbleGrog Sun 17-Mar-13 21:53:03



GrimbleGrog Sun 17-Mar-13 21:53:37

ASundayMorning that was funny

Portofino Sun 17-Mar-13 21:54:25

Read Toast to see how your children can lead an "undesirable" life and make a success of themselves because they have the passion to do it.

nooka Sun 17-Mar-13 21:58:13

I'd be extremely unhappy if one of my children having performed very well academically wanted to jack it in and leave school at 16. I'd be worried about their future because I would imagine (I acknowledge that I could be completely wrong) that the majority of people who go down this sort of route do not have glittering careers but rather end up with fairly dead end low paid jobs.

I would be inclined just to say 'no', but knowing this might not be the best idea in the world would look to understand why the change of mind. It's not unusual to want a change of environment for sixth form. Is your dd happy at boarding school? Are her friends moving about? Is she feeling under a lot of pressure, or need more freedom, or be lined up for the wrong courses?

Fundamentally you need to understand whether she has a vocational desire for hairdressing, if this is some sort of rebellion, or if she is just unhappy with the status quo.

Beamur Sun 17-Mar-13 22:00:20

HorseDogsNails - I was being serious, not sarky grin

PureQuintessence Sun 17-Mar-13 22:03:41

Hairdressing and beauty is a perfectly valid choice of career!

DS1 has expressed an interest in carpentry and cabinet making! But of course we are aiming higher, and suggest to him that he finds away of changing DNA of trees so they grow faster and produce more oxygen so that we can cut more down than we do today, and not affect the environment so much. This way he is at least doing eco friendly cabinets!

Cremolafoam Sun 17-Mar-13 22:06:25


HorsesDogsNails Sun 17-Mar-13 22:06:42

HorseDogsNails - I was being serious, not sarky

I didn't read you as sarky, I thought maybe you'd heard anecdotally and was backing you up as a living example grin!!

AuntieStella Sun 17-Mar-13 22:07:37

I think I'd be quite pleased if DD went into hair/beauty. It's always struck me as something you can fit round the different stages of your life quite well.

She wants to create monsters for the BBC (big Doctor Who fan) or run a mega chain of salons and become the most famous hairdresser in the world.

OP: I hope you fix your broken caps lock. And try not to worry. With good GCSEs your DD will be able to pick up the academic track again later if she wants to.

joanofarchitrave Sun 17-Mar-13 22:10:25

Talk to her, but FGS if you were expecting some sort of specific return on that money, you should have put it in a building society.

Relative of mine left school at 16 and trained in a (low-status) vocational career. Returned to school after 3 months having done an initial qualification and found it wasn't what she wanted to do after all. Stellar academic and professional success followed. Her parents never said a word against either decision, in fact I think they were positive and supportive both times.

I note the word 'expected' in your post. There you have it. IMO she's terrified and feeling under pressure. When approaching my uni finals I was all set to become a lock keeper (despite knowing 0 about boats and having the practical skills of a fairy). Take the pressure off. Talk about finishing what she's started (the GCSE courses). Ask her what's the worst that could happen at GCSE - she fails? So what? Life is long, school is a tedious necessity for most of us, that's all, and good things are round the corner whatever path she chooses.

EeyoresGloomyPlace Sun 17-Mar-13 22:16:37

What's so awful about hair & beauty?

Presumably she's doing well academically, judging by her predicted grades so she even if she doesn't like it she can try something else later on.

Or, she turns out to be really good at it, creates a career for herself that she enjoys and could even go on to owning/running her own salon. If you're that made of money perhaps you might even support her.

Don't push her, she'll only fight you. Its her life and she didn't ask you to spend an obscene amount of cash on her education.

lougle Sun 17-Mar-13 22:26:31

Is it sooo wrong to snigger? I can imagine that after spending £150k, you didn't expect your DD to pursue a practical skill.

Good on her.

breatheslowly Sun 17-Mar-13 22:27:41

Just think of it as a gap year working with the disadvantaged - does that make it feel better?

Probably the hardest working person I have known is my previous beautician. It was her business, she had a great eye for detail and while she wasn't rolling in money, it certainly gave her a nice lifestyle. My current beautician works from home to fit around her family life and it means that they don't have childcare costs. There are plenty of capable, smart people trained in hair and beauty, but to make a success of it they need to also be very hardworking. It doesn't look easy or glamourous.

I'd love to have a child who was trained in beauty and, ideally, massage.

AgentProvocateur Sun 17-Mar-13 22:30:23

OMG - the shame! Ask if you can get a refund. How dare she not go to Oxbridge? Imagine how much more useful a classics degree would be.

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