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somanymiles Wed 19-Dec-12 02:11:24

Cut a long story short - I am returning to the UK from abroad in July 2013 with DS 13 and DD 10 (they will be 14 and 11 when we return). Croydon Council say we cannot go the ordinary admissions route and will have to do an in year admission process when we arrive. DS is gifted in Maths just to complicate matters. Has anyone had experience with the in year admissions process? I fear they will end up in the schools no one wants to go to...

lljkk Wed 19-Dec-12 07:09:23

You need to get hold of someone in Croydon area, you need local info.
Else try to bump this up in UK daylight hours. Officially G in anything doesn't matter, but you may find it relevant if you want to take the offer to appeal.

mummytime Wed 19-Dec-12 07:28:57

You need to look at all the Croydon area schools via the Internet. Are you Catholic?
You could also look at the Sutton grammars and email them incase they will be able to take your children.

However unless the school has a long waiting list your distance from it will only matter to you, not in terms of admission.
I would also suggest you learn about the schools appeals process (there is a lot of information on Mumsnet or you could read something like How to win your schools appeal ).

I would also strongly suggest you move at the beginning of July or earlier, as year 10 is the year when most schools start their "options" and GCSE courses, and you really want to have things sorted by September (some schools will have started this in year 9 already).

tiggytape Wed 19-Dec-12 08:57:29

Croydon aren't being awkward - the ordinary admission route is only available at certain times i.e. when a child applies during Year 6 for a Year 7 place or when a child applies for a Sixth Form place. Anybody applying at any other time is automatically an in-year admission. That would be true even if you weren't currently abroad.

As mummytime says, the distance from schools won't matter once you have moved exceet if there is a waiting list in which case your position on the list will be determined by how far you are from the school not the date you joined the list.
All that matters is which school has spaces in Year 7 and in Year 9 or 10 for your older child (it depends on DS's birthday which year he'll be in). The council will place the DC at the nearest school that has a place for them. This may mean they are not at the same school and it may mean you don't get a school of your choosing.

There are 3 things you can do. You can ring around schools and research which have places. They may not still have places next year but it can give you an idea of your options and where you might be allocated.
Once you've moved, you can join waiting lists for the schools you like if they have them in operation. Investigate the sibling rule - if you manage to get one DC into a good school, this may mean that the other DC automatically gets bumped to the top of the waiting list. You'd need to check the policy on this at each school as you ask to go on lists
Finally, you can appeal for places at a school/s you want. There is no discretion for the council to give you a place at a 'full' school but, if you go before an appeals panel and explain why the school you want best meets your child's needs and interests then you can win a place that way.

tiggytape Wed 19-Dec-12 09:03:55

Meant to add: Being gifted in maths has no bearing on the initial allocations except it may mean DS can apply to one of the grammars if they have a space free.
If they have a space in that year group, they will test him (and any other children wanting a place in that year group) to determine if the place can be offered. The test is in both English and maths and both elements have to be passed. Grammars don't have to offer the place though unless a child has passed all elements of their test. They are the only type of school that is allowed to refuse to hand out unfilled vacancies.

Being gifted in maths though may help at appeal if you decide to appeal for a school that has a maths specialism and offers maths based courses and extras that other local schools do not. You would need evidence of his ability and be able to show the panel why only the school you decide to appeal for will meet his needs in terms of advanced maths opportunities, GCSE and A level choices etc eg not all schools offer GCSE statistics or have maths based clubs.

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