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Secondary schoolchildren just broke my car window outside our house - what would you expect the school to do?

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iamjustapoorboy Thu 22-Nov-12 16:53:42

I'd expect the head to raise it in assembly and ask for perpetrators and witnesses to come forward/own up. Is that unrealistic? Surely the boys should be made aware that it's not on?

NickNacks Thu 22-Nov-12 16:55:59

I wouldn't expect the school up do anything tbh unless they were in school time.

The police is who you should contact.

Floralnomad Thu 22-Nov-12 16:58:28

I also wouldn't expect the school to do anything , once the bell goes its not their problem . How do you know which school they're from anyway ?

GlitKnit Thu 22-Nov-12 17:00:09

i dont think it IS the schools responibility but they might well make it theirs.

At ours they would conduct robust investigation and include the parents.

Depends on school managment style

Bunbaker Thu 22-Nov-12 17:00:41

I think it wouldn't hurt to mention it to the school. Although it is out of school hours these pupils are representatives of that school and should know how to behave themselves in public.

I am a parent governor and would feel mortified if pupils from my school were bringing it into disrepute.

shrimponastick Thu 22-Nov-12 17:08:17

It isn't really schools problem. However when you report it to the police, I imagine school will be contacted.

Can you identify the individuals, or just the uniform?

goralka Thu 22-Nov-12 17:10:11

it's a police matter if out of school time although if they were wearing school uniform the school might want to know about it.

scurryfunge Thu 22-Nov-12 17:11:15

The school may help identify the children but you should report it to the police.

BeerTricksPott3r Thu 22-Nov-12 17:12:03

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

dexter73 Thu 22-Nov-12 17:13:28

If I knew they were definitely from a school and how many of them there were etc. I would contact the school rather than the police. At my dd's school they are very interested in things that happen outside school hours by their pupils whether it was vandalism, bullying, drinking, fighting.

tiggytape Thu 22-Nov-12 17:13:52

To those who believe schools have no power to punish children for incidents that take place in uniform but outside school, this is not strictly true:

The 2006 Education Act gives headteachers the ability to discipline pupils for poor behaviour even when the pupil is not on school premises or under the lawful control of school staff.

It is used in cases such as poor behaviour on public transport and bullying on the way to and from school so could be used here but really your first port of call would be to inform the police.

ISingSoprano Thu 22-Nov-12 17:15:33

I would definitely expect the school to be interested if some of their students were behaving like this - especially if they were in school uniform.

iamjustapoorboy Thu 22-Nov-12 18:05:13

Thanks. The school is very near, and yes they were in uniform. They are always vandalising local property. angry The school put us straight onto the police but I think the head should do something as well.

YANBU. Our head would definitely act. An email would probably be sent to staff asking them to discuss with pupils in the hope that someone dobs in one of their peers.

Did you see the kids? Schools usually have photos of all pupils. Ours are kept in a file at reception and anyone reporting something like this would be able to look through and see if they recognise any of them.

BeerTricksPott3r Thu 22-Nov-12 18:13:04

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maybenow Thu 22-Nov-12 18:15:32

You need to report to the police and then the police will go to the school and try to identify the culprits. It will have more impact that way.

Blu Thu 22-Nov-12 18:19:42

At DS's school they invite you in and show you photos of all children fitting the description in an attempt to help you identify them. I have known them call in and discipline children who have misbehaved ion the street out of school hours.

In fact the children from DS's school generally behave very well when out and about in uniform. Maybe this is why.

iamjustapoorboy Thu 22-Nov-12 18:26:40

Yes, obviously a firm approach by the school would help improve matters.

I don't think I could recognise them from photos. They are always very scary in the street.

I have drafted an email.

SminkoPinko Thu 22-Nov-12 18:36:56

poor you. did you take photos of them? or would you recognise them? Otherwise I doubt anyone can help really. It's unlikely they'll own up unless they are keen to get in big trouble or one or more if them feel genuinely remorseful enough to take the consequences and ensure their mates take the consequences too. I hope my teens would not do this and that if they did would own up but if I'm really honest with myself I think they would be unlikely to come forward, especially not if they would have to dob their mates in in the process.
aving said that, I would agree that I would expect the school to do an assembly to emphasize how unacceptable this is and ask for info just in case a kid with unusual moral fibre and bravery came forward. and if it is an ongoing problem as you say and you are very near the school maybe they should organise teachers or a community police officer to be in the vicinity after school to try and address the problem. must be very trying for local residents and will give the school a terrible reputation if allowed to continue.

SminkoPinko Thu 22-Nov-12 18:38:25

sorry- x post re recognising them/photos

Blu Thu 22-Nov-12 18:44:45

yes, poor you.

And I think it would be a good idea if they had staff and / or community police officers in the area at going home time.

I would ask for a meeting with the school, explain how serious and ongoing the problem is and how it does reflect very badly on the school and if they don't take some effective action or make an effort to stop it you will write to the local paper and tell ofsted! The reputation thing will scare them.

Also, it isn't good for young people to think they can carry in like this and the school and the local community are helpless.

iamjustapoorboy Thu 22-Nov-12 18:57:09

They have a shit reputation anyway. I cba to have a meeting with them, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. angry

ibizagirl Fri 23-Nov-12 12:28:38

Sorry about what happened op. I know of a boy that got badly beaten up after school. The boys attend the same school. The father of the injured boy spoke to the school the same afternoon and he was told that nothing would be done because it was not on school premises and that he was to speak to police. He did and they were visited by police who spoke to his son. Nothing was done at all, even by the police.They spoke to the other boy and that was it. Waste of time as usual but good luck with it!

iamjustapoorboy Fri 23-Nov-12 18:18:36

Well, I sent an email and got a holding email back.

It really pissed me off sweeping the broken glass off the road. So much hassle. sad

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