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Prav Fri 05-Oct-12 19:48:03

I work near Liverpool street station in London and looking for moving to some place where there are some good schools (an option of grammer schools as well) and somewhere kids can grow and be good!

Somewhere where I can find 4 bed place under 350K!

Sorry I am not mom but a dad! Joined this site as their was some useful information on it! Hope it doesn't cause any concerns!

Appreciate some help! Thanks

auntevil Fri 05-Oct-12 20:11:46

London Borough of Sutton has grammar. There are some good schools, but it does depend where you live in the Borough - and whether you have a DD or DS. Some parts of the Borough are in Zone 4 - some 6. There is the Thameslink train as well through some stations.
You can get 4 beds for that £ - but again it depends on the area. Grammar doesn't depend on catchment area, but of the others that do, there are areas in most that you could get required housing. Worth checking with LEA where each of a preferred school took their furthest away from child last year. It is only a guide, but it might give you an idea of whether you might get in.
Plus side is you're close enough to London, and close enough to get out of London!

SkippyYourFriendEverTrue Sat 06-Oct-12 01:37:38

£350k (ish) would get you a house here:

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-38383028.html

which would get you a place here:

www.gordons.surrey.sch.uk/

tiggytape Sat 06-Oct-12 09:55:51

I don't think you could get a 4 bed (or possibly even a 3 bedroom) house centrally for that in all honesty but the grammars have no catchment areas so you don't have to live close to them to apply.
You could look to live somewhere like Morden or parts of Wallington or Croydon for a bigger house in that price bracket.

mummytime Sat 06-Oct-12 13:16:01

Surrey doesn't have grammar schools. In the catchment of sought after comps you would have to look hard for a 4 bed for that price. Have you tried Essex or Redbridge?

suburbandream Sat 06-Oct-12 13:17:46

There are good schools and grammars in Bromley and Bexley. Not sure about direct trainst to Liverpool Street but you can get to London Bridge and Cannon Street v.easily.

Dominodonkey Sat 06-Oct-12 13:19:55

Bexley would be good for you. Old style 11 plus (the whole borough takes it). Between 20 and 35 minutes into London (Charing x or Cannon Street) Parts of the borough are nicer than others but there would be quite a few houses in the pleasant bits for under 350k.

RancerDoo Sat 06-Oct-12 13:28:19

Chelmsford might be worth a look. Grammar schools, houses in your budget and trains into Liv St in just over an hour.

tiggytape Sat 06-Oct-12 15:16:25

There are 7 grammars in Surrey / London borders: Wallington Boys, Wallington Girls, Tiffin Boys, Tiffin Girls, Nonsuch, Sutton Grammar and Wilsons.

tiggytape Sat 06-Oct-12 15:18:07

..but house prices near some of them are astronomical (and there's no point paying extra to be close to them since living nearby doesn't help you get a place. There is no catchment and no priority given for living on the doorstep - a couple of the girls' schools however do save some places for locals but local is defined as many km but the boys ones are strictly highest score wins regardless of where you live)

mummytime Sat 06-Oct-12 20:27:17

None of those Grammars are in Surrey though. Kids from Surrey have also been known to go to the Reading grammars and I expect Kent ones too.

tiggytape Sat 06-Oct-12 20:35:30

mummytime - It depends how you define it. They are all in London Boroughs but every one of them has a postal address that is in Surrey eg Wallington's address is Woodcote Road, Wallington, Surrey. All Sutton addresses automatically come under Surrey not London (for address purposes). Ditto Kingston (so Tiffins is Queen Elizabeth Road, Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey).

Although the schools are all in separate London Boroughs, each one is also in Surrey as far as postal address goes but none of them come under Surrey County Council. Lots of schools with a Surrey address don't come under Surrey Council in fact but some London Borough ones still have a Surrey address.

Not that it matters really - you apply to your own council no matter where the school you want is located.

mummytime Sat 06-Oct-12 21:14:52

Parts of Surrey have Hampshire postal addresses and vice versa.
Admittedly is Surrey the only LA to have its headquarters outside its own area?

RandomMess Sat 06-Oct-12 21:31:50

Surrey is stuck having it's HQ in Kingston due to it having been given the property via some sort of covenant meaning they can't sell it or something!

chickydoo Sat 06-Oct-12 21:34:32

Kingston is in Surrey! Tiffin is in Kingston

RandomMess Sat 06-Oct-12 21:39:23

yeah but it's not Kingston isn't part of surrey county council, it's got Kingston Borough Council part of London IYSWIM.

Alurkatsoftplay Sat 06-Oct-12 21:44:50

I second roodancer, Chelmsford would be good for Liverpool street - nice area and some great grammars there.
Alternatively, walk from fenchurch street line and try Leigh or Southend (two less selective grammars there)

Be careful tho: your kid might not get into the grammar and you mightn't like the alternative.

tiggytape Sat 06-Oct-12 22:33:33

chickydoo - as far as the post office is concerned, Kingston is in Surrey. But for school admin, Kingston is a London Borough.

Not that it matters because you can apply to any school you fancy via your own local council but when people say 'Surrey grammars' they mean grammar schools physically located at Surrey addresses that, for admin purposes aren't actually under Surrey at all but London.
And when people say there are no grammars in Surrey, it is also confusing because there are 7 physically located in Surrey but they don't actually come under Surrey County Council (and just to confuse it further I think most if not all are academies now anyway so they probably don't come under London either but are their own mini authorities).

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