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schoolsearch1 Sun 19-Jun-11 22:50:40

How are these lessons taught in year 10/11? Does the double award have seperate lessons for chemistry, biology and physics the same as the triple award or are the lessons taught as a mix of all three.

MmeBlueberry Mon 20-Jun-11 06:59:50

The lessons are separate Physics, Chemistry and Biology.

Kez100 Mon 20-Jun-11 09:56:58

My daughter does double award and they have 5 lessons a week. She has two teachers - one for core and one for additional. They are not taught C, P, B separately.

Currently, my daughter is doing case study coursework for Add with one teacher (2 hours a week) and a core module B2,C2,P2 (3 hours a week) with the other teacher. However, the physics work will be taught in a different lesson than the biology work and so on. In the exam papers it is clear to see which 14 marks are for P, which14 are for C and those for B.

sillybillies Mon 20-Jun-11 10:24:08

It varies from school to school. Some teach B, P and C separately,whereas others split the teaching into core and additional/applied.

mummytime Mon 20-Jun-11 10:47:54

For instance at my DCs school (state) they have separate lessons of C B and P from year 7, with different teachers for each science.

GnomeDePlume Mon 20-Jun-11 13:36:13

DD1 is taking triple science to GCSE and they are taught separately. She is sitting separate exams for the three sciences. The students taking dual science are sitting a BTEC type qualification (GCSE equivalent)

IMO if the student is interested in taking sciences to A level then they need to have the separate GCSEs. Those who have taken the dual science BTEC are probably best continuing on the BTEC route to the next level.

Kez100 Mon 20-Jun-11 13:48:46

My Godson has come into his own in science since taking his options. He has predicted A* in dual science. He wants to consider medicine and the A level college have said to him that, whilst they prefer triple science, they will look at his situation and they wll accept him onto Science A levels with great dual science results plus he already has A* Maths.

I think, going forward, triple is going to become more necessary while there are many schools out which still have students under double award who are clever scientists (triple was not sold to these children as it has been in the past year) I hope options for them at A levels remains.

My son is great at science but due to so few option choices next year, he was only going to do double award. I think now triple is the big thing, he'd be burning his bridges a bit early and is going to have to choose the triple as he needs to keep his options open.

Pang Mon 20-Jun-11 15:16:55

Double science is not taught as individual subjects. The children cover the highlights of each. Triple science covers 3 sciences separately and in more depth. It is possible to do an A level in an individual science after doing a double science GCSE but it is harder because you have not had the same coverage as Triple science students. Students in this position are expected to gain this knowledge quickly and independantly.

mummytime Mon 20-Jun-11 16:56:51

At my kids school studying the AQA syllabus it is taught as separate subjects. It is also taught as separate subjects at at least two other local schools. They sit separate papers in Chemistry, Physics and Biology, actually for AQA they do this even for Core Science.

Pang Mon 20-Jun-11 17:35:55

In the UK, Double Award Science is the combined study of GCSE biology, chemistry and physics that results in two GCSEs. Triple Science gives you a GCSE in each of the sciences (3).

goinggetstough Mon 20-Jun-11 18:11:38

Double award science is now usually known as core science and additional science. Two separate GCSEs. Each consists of a separate bio, phys and chem paper.
Core science = bio1, chem1 and phys 1
Additional Science = bio2, chem2 and phys 2

Individual sciences
Chem GCSE = chem1, chem 2 and chem 3
Bio GCSE = bio 1 , bio2 and bio3
Phys GCSE = phys 1, phys 2 and phys 3

So individual science GCSE have an additional module. The first 2 in each science are the same as above.

lazymumofteenagesons Mon 20-Jun-11 18:22:43

Does anyone know whether core and additional science can result in 2 different grades (for example A for core and B for additional) or are they combined and the result is AA or BB etc

goinggetstough Mon 20-Jun-11 18:25:25

2 totally separate grades.

mrswoodentop Mon 20-Jun-11 18:37:27

Different grades ,ds got A* for core and A for additional which is probably a fair reflection being more of an arts type.He had separate teachers and lessons for physics,Chen and bio

Kandinsky Mon 20-Jun-11 18:42:15

To take science A level triple science is preferable at GCSE but it is not impossible with double. My DS could only take double science as triple science was not offered at his school at the time but went on to get an A in Chemistry at A level

lazymumofteenagesons Mon 20-Jun-11 20:00:52

As well as B1, P1, C1 and B2, P2 and C2 he also does something he calls an ISA. Is this part of additional/core/both?

snorkie Mon 20-Jun-11 20:27:38

For AQA, you need one ISA for each GCSE (worth 25%of total), but it''s common to take two for each and they then use the best one.

For OCR, the 'coursework' part (not called ISA) is worth about a third of the total per GCSE (slightly different %age for current year 9s to the older ones) and the exam module structure is slightly different as there are 6 in total instead of 3 for each subject which are grouped differently according to whether you are doing 2 or 3 GCSEs, but it comes down to the same idea.

lazymumofteenagesons Mon 20-Jun-11 20:55:09

Thanks for that. He must be doing AQA and he has done a few of these ISAs in each subject.

snorkie Mon 20-Jun-11 21:11:53

ds did AQA too. At his school everyone did a core and an additional ISAs in each of phys, chem and bio, and then the triple scientists used the best of two for each subject GCSE and the core & additional scientists chose the best of three at the appropriate level for each of their GCSEs. They did the core ones in year 10, so although they were supposedly slightly easier, they didn't necessarily get better marks in them than in the additional ones which were taken in year 11. So quite likely your ds has done 6 altogether, maybe even more (not sure how many there are to choose from each year).

MmeBlueberry Mon 20-Jun-11 21:32:10

B1 + C1 + P1 = 'Science'
B2 + C2 + P2 = 'Additional Science'
B1 + B2 + B3 = 'Biology' etc.

EndoplasmicReticulum Mon 20-Jun-11 21:44:06

I think you need to ask the school really!

We used to do AQA as explained by MmeBlueberry above.

Now do IGCSE, which is double or triple. Double students still have phys, bio, chem as separate lessons, just have less time than the separates.

No ISAs. smile

circular Wed 22-Jun-11 13:11:15

Depends on the school, and when they decide who's doing triple or double.

At DD1s school, they triple is part of the yr9 options process and takes up an option choice.
Those invited that choose to take triple have separate Physics, Chemistry and Biology lessons (7 lessons a week in total) with 'specialist' teachers, from the start of yr10. Those taking Core + Additional have 5 science lessons per week with more general science teachers. They all took the first core module in yr9. OCR board.

I know of other schools where the three subjects are studied separately from rhe start of yr7, but they do not decide who will take triple until the start of yr11. And they all have the same amount of lessons.

whatstream Thu 23-Jun-11 17:56:43

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