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Baggyoldclothcat Thu 24-Feb-11 16:29:21

I am currently looking at secondary schools for my DD who is in year 5. I went to the open day last year and was impressed with the facilities and also the girls who showed us around. Does anyone have any opinions or experience of this school?

Renniehorta Thu 24-Feb-11 22:36:04

I went there for my sixth form although many moons ago. It was brilliant then. I owe them a lot.

oldqueenie Thu 24-Feb-11 22:59:44

blimey! i was there too (about 500 years ago).

Baggyoldclothcat Fri 25-Feb-11 18:48:55

Thank you for replying Renniehorta and Oldqueenie - my only concern about the school was that my rather shy, quiet DD would be slightly overwhelmed by the class sizes. Also does anyone know what the position is as regards streaming? Is this done in year 7 or year 9? Sorry, I'm trying to get my head around what would be the best option for my daughter and not getting very far!

PatriciaHolm Fri 25-Feb-11 23:28:29

Everyone I know who has girls there are very happy with it, tbh. I know little details -DD is only Y1, so its a bit away for us - but I know a number of parents with DDs in Y7/8 who are very happy and none who are disappointed.

GiddyPickle Sat 26-Feb-11 00:05:02

It is a very good school with excellent results and a really good reputation. Class sizes have never been mentioned as an issue - it is approx 30 girls per class which is the norm for state schools. It is one of the best regarded schools in the area if you want a state school and a single sex school.

The only downside (if this applies) is that it has such a tiny catchment area. Living in Epsom you will be fine but more than 1.5 miles away and you probably won't get a place.

I know a lot of people have it as their back up just in case their DD doesn't get a Nonsuch place so it is definitely well thought of.

Dozer Sat 26-Feb-11 10:44:49

As giddypickle says, the catchment area is small and getting smaller.

Am not sure when it stopped being selective: if this was recently, some of the good results could be due to selection

oldqueenie Sat 26-Feb-11 19:06:56

it stopped being selective in the '70's! until then it was a grammar school.

Baggyoldclothcat Sat 26-Feb-11 19:53:16

Fortunately we are in the catchment area so it is very reassuring to hear all the positive comments.

My DD is currently at an independent school with a class size of 19 so my only real concern is how she will cope with the larger class sizes and whether she will be somehow overlooked given her quiet nature.

GastonTheLadybird Sat 26-Feb-11 19:56:55

I went there too, think it is a great school and would happily send my DD. I never felt that class sizes were too big and had a couple of friends who came from private who adapted just fine.

Baggyoldclothcat Mon 28-Feb-11 11:00:11

Thank you GastonTheLadybird, glad to hear that you enjoyed it and that class sizes weren't an issue. Does anyone have any idea what the situation is as regards streaming?

Rosebery seems like a very good option for us especially as the other schools we are looking at would involve DD getting on a bus at 7.20am hmm

GastonTheLadybird Mon 28-Feb-11 11:09:29

I am pretty sure we were streamed fairly early, yr 7 for Maths and English, probably Science and then there were moves at beginning of yr 8 to reflect yr 7 exam results. Some stayed mixed, religious studies, art, technology etc.

Sure if you phone they can give you the specifics for now though. I started in 1998 so poss quite different now!

EmsDad Tue 08-May-12 22:18:33

2.27 miles was the furthest distance place offered for 2012. Is this much different than previous years?

Thanks

Silverstreet Wed 09-May-12 21:01:14

Per SCC website it was 3.654km distance in 2012, 3.41km in 2011.

EmsDad Thu 10-May-12 22:31:26

Bound to get smaller, the Noble Park development, etc

Dooood Wed 06-Jun-12 13:17:47

We moved recently to Epsom and we were lucky to have a place in the 6 form, but my DD worried.

SHAHINAKHAN Wed 25-Oct-17 17:19:30

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New to mumsnet, so a warm hi to all mums out there.
I am in a real fix. working on my daughter's secondary school admission. she wishes to go to an all girls outstanding school and the best one closest to us is the Roseberry in Epsom. The worst part is the distance is about 5 miles to my home.
Can someone guide me, should i even put this school as our first preference on the school admission form or even the last one or just leave it as we will not be considered.
please help!!!!!1

Teddygirlonce Wed 25-Oct-17 20:02:46

You might be better starting your own talk thread SHAHINAKHAN as this is a zombie one.

The worst part is the distance is about 5 miles to my home answering this as I know people whose DDs are there. Think it's got quite a small catchment area . TBQH from what I've been told by people in the know five miles away will be too far away. Just checked the school's website and it would appear "the distance of the last place allocated into Year 7 in previous years is as follows:

2017 2.1712
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20142.0142"

However, there's nothing to stop you putting it on your CAF as your rank outsider school option, if that's the school you really would like your DD to go to. Just to be realistic about her chances (or not) of securing a place, come offers day or thereafter, if you've put it at or near the top.

Good luck!

PatriciaHolm Wed 25-Oct-17 21:09:25

5 miles is significantly further than distance admissions have gone for years, as said. You can appeal of course, but you need to have another realistic option as your chances are small.

SHAHINAKHAN Wed 25-Oct-17 22:31:43

Thanks Teddygirlonce and PatricialHolm. I was wondering what her chances of securing a place in the school would be if I put the Roseberry school top on my CAF? I do have options but not many, however I am speaking and explaining to her where we stand and have also asked her to think about a co-ed school, how she feels about it.
Any way thanks for your advice.

Teddygirlonce Thu 26-Oct-17 08:02:25

what her chances of securing a place in the school would be if I put the Roseberry school top on my CAF?

By all means put it top but the schools have no idea which order you've put them in on the CAF - they will only offer your DD a place at Rosebery IF she meet the entry criteria (which based on your distance from Rosebery, she is highly unlikely to).

How many CAF choices do you have in Surrey? You need to be strategic in which schools you put on the list (particularly if it's only three) so your DD has a reasonable chance of meeting entry criteria -
and therefore gaining admission - to one of her/your preferred choices, otherwise she may be allocated one with spare places (which may well be an under-achieving one that you'd not want her to go to).

In an ideal world we'd all like to send our children to the best school possible but it's not always feasible. We live just outside catchment for one of THE best comps in London. It's our closest school BUT we're still a matter of several hundred metres too far away to ever gain entry on distance. DC2 ended up with their third choice school which was the 'bank' one - the dead cert, given catchment area and where we lived. We were just relieved that they got one of the six, particularly as the other five were all varying degrees of 'rank outsider'.

tiggytape Thu 26-Oct-17 09:20:27

Just as a quick thought: are you measuring your distance from home correctly?

I don't mean accurately - I mean are you using "as the crow flies" if that's the method this school uses?

Some measure distance by "shortest safe walking route"
Some use "as the crow flies"
You can check in their admissions information.

If you live 5 miles away by car, you may live a lot closer on straight line distance on a map.

Either way, all you can do is list the school first on your form.
If you squeeze into the distance criteria this year (maybe fewer people apply for whatever reason this year) - then great.
If not, you have lost nothing by naming it first. You don't get any lesser priority for your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th preference schools just because you didn't list them first.
There are no extra priorities handed out to people who say they like a school best (so equally there is no downside to placing schools in the actual order of preference - you don't need to try to second guess about how realistic your first choice is).

tiggytape Thu 26-Oct-17 09:26:33

Surrey now get 6 preferences.

Years ago they only had 3 choices which was tricky as the 11+ results also came out after October 31st and some people had realistic access to 4 grammar schools (so some people listed no comps at all and were then in hot water if they failed the 11+).

It was also considered unfair because children aiming for some of the same schools - and living sometimes just a few metres away such as those in Croydon, Sutton, Kingston and Richmond etc - got an extra 3 preferences to play with so didn't have to limit their realistic application to just 2 "desirable-but-maybe-unlikely" choices plus a 3rd banker. They could list all the grammars and unlikely schools and still have room for a safe option.

It changed around 5-7 years ago I think.

PatriciaHolm Thu 26-Oct-17 11:01:17

Realistically, if you live 5 miles away as the crow flies, then your chances are pretty much zero. Do check, as a PP said, if you are measuring by road as surrey use straight line distance.

SHAHINAKHAN Thu 26-Oct-17 19:08:32

Yes, We have a choice of six schools not three. The distance from the school to my home is given on the Sutton Council Website. If the criteria for admission in a school is just the distance, then as Patricia said, our chances are zero. So we are actually wasting one of the choice given to us. feeling very sad.

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