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Do selective schools take account of a state school background?

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StanHouseMuir Tue 16-Nov-10 16:53:18

Is it likely that selective schools factor in a state school education when comparing against prep-school entrants?

A local selective head has said they prefer non-coached children but I get the impression that the local preps do a lot of work for the entrance tests

Caoimhe Tue 16-Nov-10 17:01:47

Well I only had one school admit to factoring in state education but around here most children from state primaries are tutored so it should be a reasonably level playing field (academically speaking at least).

StanHouseMuir Tue 16-Nov-10 17:24:04

Is that for the independent sector or grammer schools?

We're not tutoring our DD, but are now having second thoughts, despite what the target school says.

Caoimhe Tue 16-Nov-10 17:31:44

Oh independent - the grammar schools I know just go by the marks on the exam.

basildonbond Tue 16-Nov-10 18:57:58

the school ds1 attends said they marked the papers from prep school and state school kids differently - he was certainly not disadvantaged (got scholarship) by going to state school and had no tutoring either

so ime yes, they do

Barbeasty Tue 16-Nov-10 21:39:35

I don't know about now, but the Bristol private schools used to take it into account and require different marks from state vs prep. I think they even used to differentiate between prep schools, especially when talking about scholarships, as some did far more cramming than others.

GiddyPickle Wed 17-Nov-10 10:27:32

Independent schools make allowances. State grammar schools make no allowances - it is purely down to the test result on the day About 1500 children take the test, about 500 children pass the test but there are only spaces for the top 120 or top 150 children so it purely goes on rank score)

That is the situation here anyway but it may be different elsewhere. Here there is also no catchment area for some grammars so children from Prep Schools over 20 miles away are competing for the same places as state school children living virtually next door.

You could look on the school website or ring the school and ask so that you know for sure. The answer is probably that it varies.

stillfeel18inside Wed 17-Nov-10 11:49:11

I think they definitely make allowances, especially in maths where yr 6 kids won't necessarily have covered the same as prep school kids.

thirtysomething Wed 17-Nov-10 21:18:51

The head at DS' (highly selective) school told us after he had taken the entrance exam at 11 that he was discounting most of his maths paper as he clearly hadn't covered most of the syllabus at his state primary school. So he got in on the strength of his English, reasoning tests and general gift of the gab! The Head said they just look for potential and can spot the over-tutored prep children.

DS is now in Y8 and certainly keeping up with everyone else in the year, especially in Maths, so i guess the Head was right in his assessment.

coodles Thu 18-Nov-10 15:08:26

When my younger DS moved from his state school, he had to sit an entrance test for Maths, English and verbal and non verbal reasoning to enter private school.

After the test, he told me he hadn't been able to read the English paper properly and so had barely answered any questions. I assumed he had failed, but he was offered a place as the Head said he had potential - and clearly had not been coached.

I think"potential" is what they look for. My DS will chat about anything as he is interested in a lot of things -I think they liked that.

RatherBeOnThePiste Thu 18-Nov-10 16:09:39

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