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messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:01:46

My friend's daughter's school has requested a meeting about putting her into the local pupil referral unit.

Nothing is in writing, and her parents are not happy about this decision.

We do not know how to fight this; does she have to go there if that is what the school suggests?

Are there any procedures that need to be followed or any school policies we can request that will explain this further?


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messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:04:55

Sorry just to add,

she has already been excluded twice.

Does this mean that realistically no other school will accept her?

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messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:14:24


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BelligerentGhoul Tue 28-Sep-10 21:16:34

If she's already been excluded twice, your friend would do well to support the school and agree to a short period in the referral unit. That way, she's more likely to get another chance. If your friend refuses and the girl commits another excludable 'offence' the school may be more likely to escalate a permanent exclusion, if they feel parents have not been supportive in the past.

c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:20:36

you need tethersend - she works in a PRU.

mnistooaddictive Tue 28-Sep-10 21:22:54

I think that some students end up being really grateful they went to the pru as it is more supportive and tailed to their needs. It doesn't have to be a bad thing. If she has already been excluded twice then the school is not meeting her needs, why fight to keep her there?

messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:26:52

Her parents are not really sure what the school are suggesting, and don't really know anything about PRUs.

I think they want to move her to a closer school, but are worried that she'll be forced to go the referral unit.

They have been supportive and have always attended meetings with the school, but they don't necessarily agree with how bad their daughter's behaviour is... and its not my place to judge really.

Thanks for your advice.

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c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:27:57

referral units are usually temporary - could be a breathing space for her

messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:29:04

I think that's what they are worried about... the stereotypical idea of children from a PRU.

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BelligerentGhoul Tue 28-Sep-10 21:30:46

It really does depend if it's a long-term alternative education thing, or a short term 'shock' thing. Your friend needs to find out which is being proposed because they are very different.

c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:30:51

Surely the label of exclusion is worse?

messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:32:39

Really that's good.

I think sometimes schools can try their hardest but if at home the child is hearing from their parents that they are right and the school is wrong- then it's not really going to work.

Her parents are telling her that the school are picking on her and so I don't really know what's going to happen with her. It's sad.

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messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:34:26

For some people exclusion isn't seen as "that bad".

I agree with you but a lot of parents don't.

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retiredgoth2 Tue 28-Sep-10 21:34:44

I have experience of PRU.

The feral urchin was excluded twice in the years after his Mum's death. I fought it, but he ended up in a good PRU.

I'll name it.

Cotswold Education Centre, Mangotsfield.

They deserve credit.

6 pupils in his group. And yes, most of them came from the socio-ecomomic group that stereotype would suggest. But MOST were very sweet kids who had had a bum deal.

The teaching was high quality, dedicated, firm but kind. And the Feral Urchin began to learn.

Then we moved, and were offered an equivalent provision in a different LEA. It was AWFUL.

I'll name it

The Link. Bath.

All the things that were good about the previous PRU were not present. Firm, kind, professional dedication? Nah.

So we refused. And (after a lot of jiggery-pokery)he went to a lovely village primary to finish year 6.

He is close to finishing his first month at a (very highly rated) secondary. He is flying (with the aid of a fully funded statement). I am hugely proud of him, and enormously grateful to the work of both the PRU, and the small C of E village primary.

The lesson?

Don't just blankly refuse. Go and see the provision. It COULD be the best thing. And you DO have a choice. If the local unit is poor, look at others in neighbouring authorities.

Good luck.

c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:34:58


BelligerentGhoul Tue 28-Sep-10 21:37:01

Brilliant post Retired Goth - and v good to see a fellow Weddoes fan still knocking around on here!

messybedhead Tue 28-Sep-10 21:37:02

I know I know I'm trying to find out for her and give her as much information as I can.

Thanks for all your help.

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c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:39:26

what's weddoes? <nosy>

retiredgoth2 Tue 28-Sep-10 21:40:17

It is, ultimately, better for the child to succeed in a good PRU, than to consistently be seen as 'bad', a 'failure' in mainstream.

The Feral Urchin suddenly found himself as the star when he went to PRU. Fragile self esteem benefits from this.

And yes. PRU is temporary. You have to be registered at a mainstream school to attend though it is possible that after a period of assessment the child may receive a permanent EBD placement.

(shudder. 0.5% of such kids get 5 GCSEs...)

BelligerentGhoul Tue 28-Sep-10 21:40:42

The Wedding Present - indie band with hairy-kneed Dave Gedge as lead singer.

Sorry Op!

retiredgoth2 Tue 28-Sep-10 21:41:47

The Weddoes (Wedding Present) are a popular beat combo of 1980s vintage, Cornsilk!

Loshad Tue 28-Sep-10 21:42:26

messy, pru's cost the school a huge amount of money, as well as counting against them in the league tables so they are unlikley to suggest it unless your friend's dds behaviour is really poor. It really might be the catalyst that turns her around, so don't discount it just because it's a pru.

Blu Tue 28-Sep-10 21:42:58

I have run projects in PRUs and found them very helpful with children who are just not managing to fit in in bigger schools. If she is offered one which is small, where students are able to get more individual attention, with pastoral support etc, it could be great. They aim to support pupils: being sent to one isn't primarily a punishment.

I'm pleased your urchin is doing well, RetiredGoth.

c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:46:24

Retired Goth - I remember the name but can't remember any songs.hmm

c0rns1lk Tue 28-Sep-10 21:47:27

hum an online tune and I'll try to remember

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