Is the NHS payment going to all NHS workers or just the COVID frontline?

[Tamingofthehamster]

Because a lot have nhs have had the easiest year ever with ops being cancelled etc, so is it going to be targeted?

[41weekswithno2]

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/these-are-nhs-workers-eligible-ps500-bonus-payment-3052992%3famp


It's made me quite angry to be honest.

[Bytheloch]

Send any complaints you have to St Nic, who announced this at the SNP conference, not in her role as FM where she’s saving us all from covid.

Also send complaints to Blackford who is calling on the U.K. Gov to enable the payment to be tax free and blaming Boris (as is St Nic)?! A senior moment for them both perhaps, as they forgot the SG taxes at country level...some of which pays for the NHS (and freebies such as prescriptions) in Scotland.

Divisive stunts.

[NameChangeNeedsSleep]

Sorry this sounds a bit dense, but why are NHS Dentists being given the payment? They’ve refused repeatedly to do anything? I’ve had multiple tooth infections, teeth deteriorated very rapidly March-June. I now need all of my top teeth out (I’ve underlying health issues, I’m not a grot! Do brush them), they’re nothing more than cracked jaggy stubs, I can barely eat and I’m in constant pain, on antibiotics every few weeks from infections but our dentist is refusing to even do emergency removal treatment (i just want them out, I don’t care if I’m left toothless). We’ve been repeatedly denied any kind of dental care, no way at all they deserve a thank you payment.

[Y0uCann0tBeSer10us]

Yes, I saw the announcement yesterday and when she started going on about how she didn't have the powers and please Boris Johnson let them keep every penny I was a bit WTF?! Blatant electioneering, and divisive as others have said. A consultant gets a (possibly tax free) £500 but shop workers on the front line get redundancy. What ever happened to that missing money from Westminster that was supposed to help small businesses btw?

[Christmasbiscuit]

@NameChangeNeedsSleep

Sorry this sounds a bit dense, but why are NHS Dentists being given the payment? They’ve refused repeatedly to do anything? I’ve had multiple tooth infections, teeth deteriorated very rapidly March-June. I now need all of my top teeth out (I’ve underlying health issues, I’m not a grot! Do brush them), they’re nothing more than cracked jaggy stubs, I can barely eat and I’m in constant pain, on antibiotics every few weeks from infections but our dentist is refusing to even do emergency removal treatment (i just want them out, I don’t care if I’m left toothless). We’ve been repeatedly denied any kind of dental care, no way at all they deserve a thank you payment.

Absolutely! My son was refused treatment in May despite an infection.
I also had an ongoing treatment with a nurse at the doctors surgery cancelled.
It's quite ridiculous.
I've got family members who have lost jobs and others in secure jobs being rewarded £500... thank god I'm not joining anyone for Christmas this year!

[Mrsjayy]

My sister and colleagues are non NHS carers they have worked slept over kept their clients safe and occupied for months do they get £500 ?

[lurker101]

Think it’s the height of nonsense and electioneering. If this COVID crisis was not accompanied with a financial crisis I could back it, but people are paid a wage they accept for the role, now is not the time to be shaking a money tree which we do not have.

[madcatladyforever]

Sorry this sounds a bit dense, but why are NHS Dentists being given the payment? They’ve refused repeatedly to do anything? I’ve had multiple tooth infections, teeth deteriorated very rapidly March-June. I now need all of my top teeth out (I’ve underlying health issues, I’m not a grot! Do brush them), they’re nothing more than cracked jaggy stubs, I can barely eat and I’m in constant pain, on antibiotics every few weeks from infections but our dentist is refusing to even do emergency removal treatment (i just want them out, I don’t care if I’m left toothless). We’ve been repeatedly denied any kind of dental care, no way at all they deserve a thank you payment.

I have to agree here, I'm an NHS worker and have been frantically busy the whole of lockdown. I got a dental abcess in February and could get no help whatsoever for it for the whole of lockdown, I was in acute agony, my whole face swollen, GP and 111 would not give me antibiotics, my dentist was shut. I ended up with osteomyelitis and have had to have a bone graft (sinus implant) after an extraction and now two implants all of which I've had to pay for as it's not available on the NHS and has taken all my savings - all because I could not get any antibiotics not to mention the months of going in to work in agony. Even tramadol didn't kill the pain - it's ludicrous.

[Jellycatspyjamas]

I’m not happy with it either, my daughter needs multiple health assessments all of which have been out on hold since March meaning surgery she needs now won’t go ahead because she’s too old - the surgery needs to take place at a particular point in her development to be effective. She has complex additional needs which can’t be assessed because none of the departments are seeing patients in person. And now they get a bonus. What the actual fuck.

[Mrsjayy]

I have had NHS treatment throughout I really have no complaints about it but my god Nicola is throwing it about isn't she ? Her plea to Westminster was a bloody disgrace I totally lost respect for the government it was embarrassing.

[NameChangeNeedsSleep]

@madcatladyforever I’m so sorry you’re dealing with that, it sounds so fudging painful. Absolutely disgusting that you had no access to a dentist too, given we need people like you to fight this pandemic

[WaxOnFeckOff]

It is divisive, it isn't fair and I say that as the wife of an NHS worker and he thinks the same. He's worked as normal through all of this, not busier or quieter but is grateful he has a job, he isn't on a very good payscale but has good terms and conditions and job security. Lots of folk would like to be in the same position.

Please don't start holding this against people who haven't asked for this.

[PaddyF0dder]

It’s all NHS, as many above have said.

Simply because you’re not directly fighting covid does NOT mean your job hasn’t been impacted by the pandemic.

I work in CAMHS. It’s been a really rough year for the mental health of young people. We’ve been inundated, and have had to find ways to work through the pandemic. It’s been a really, really tough year.

I think we’re due a bonus.

[WaxOnFeckOff]

he has a tooth that is falling to bits and has had on/off toothache but they;ll only consider extracting it but he can't as it supports the plate he's just paid out thousands for. No-one can get check ups. People are going to end up having all sorts of stuff missed - e.g. moth cancers etc.

[Dinosauratemydaffodils]

It's emotive definitely. My experience of the NHS during the pandemic has been so negative it seems like a joke. I know people who are likely to die earlier than they would have because they couldn't get appointments/things weren't picked up. One friend who was in a horrific car crash missed out on months of physio and has now been told over zoom she'll always have limited movement/pain because she missed out on months of physio during the pandemic. My son was discharged from the hospital without being seen. No dental treatment. My daughter's hv 27 to 32 month review was a 6 minute phonecall. Speaking to various mums they got the same so how much has been missed? Oh and I haven't heard from my psychiatrist since early July despite almost being sectioned in May as I found various elements of lockdown and the threat of masks very hard to deal with (have ptsd).

[Mrsjayy]

It isn't just the NHS that has been front line since march I appreciate it is hard for all workers and I don't begrudge anybody a bonus but I feel Nicola is just throwing glitter on a turd !

[Tamingofthehamster]

But Paddy, my point is that most of the people getting the payment have probably had less work than ever. I appreciate CAMHS would have been busy, but you weren’t putting your lives at risk in the same way as the frontline Covid staff.

[Kaliorphic]

Ahh Nicola trying to keep the vote by showing that she isn't making a complete fuck up of everything covid. Sadly for Nicola it seems to be too late. Her days are numbered.

[PaddyF0dder]

@Tamingofthehamster

It’s not danger money.

[Tamingofthehamster]

If it’s not danger money, where’s the justification for it over other workers who worked throughout?
Are shop workers going to get an increased tax free allowance?
Or is just a bribe?

[Backbee]

Lots of retail workers have had bonuses, but they aren't government employees so why would the government give them money anyway? Same with a lot of those that work in care, they work for private companies, people would also complain if the government had power over what they pay staff. I think it would be great if every NHS worker recieved a bonus, although they won't. Those who have had ops cancelled etc was on the direction of strategic management decisions, and most of the staff were deployed to other duties and wards- it's laughable to think individuals who don't earn amazing money had the power to say nah can't be arsed and cancelled stuff themselves, and deserve to be shamed for it. There are issues with the NHS, but I think it's a bit unfair to blame individual HCPs for that.

[PaddyF0dder]

@Tamingofthehamster

Right, are you

a) upset that NHS staff are getting a bonus?

b) upset that others aren’t?

If it’s b, then we agree.

[Bytheloch]

See, look at this thread already. 🙁
As I said at the top, divisive stunts.

[Tamingofthehamster]

I have no issue with frontline staff getting a bonus.
I do have an issue with eg consultants working a few hours a week because their wards have been emptied, and then getting a bonus.
I believe that when money is tight, people shouldn’t be rewarded extra for doing their job, but should be rewarded when they have had to make huge sacrifices in safety and home life for doing their job.

[Tamingofthehamster]

Backbee-I appreciate the HCP didn’t make the decision to close wards. But because the wards were closed they do not deserve a bonus imho