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Isadora2007 Mon 13-Mar-17 11:47:17

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Will your vote change next time?

Xoticdreamz Mon 13-Mar-17 11:55:32

I'm in no way surprised. It is after all her and the SNP's overriding political want .. above anything else clearly.
I feel worn down by UK politics as a whole in all honesty.

Isadora2007 Mon 13-Mar-17 11:57:50

I was No last time and now I'm I don't know...

MoreProseccoNow Mon 13-Mar-17 11:59:45

Urgh, I haven't changed my mind from last time - it's still a no from me.

I didn't think the financial figures added up last time, and with the state of the oil industry now, they will be worse.

Unless something huge comes out over the next wee while about Brexit......

LapCatLicker Mon 13-Mar-17 12:00:31

My vote has definitely changed. I'm sick of the buffoons at Westminister.

ChocolateFuzz Mon 13-Mar-17 12:01:26

I'm glad about it, if Scotland and the Scottish people are going to get shafted by brexit they should have the right the choose whether they want to stay or not.

FrizzBombDelight Mon 13-Mar-17 12:03:18

It hasn't been announced, Sturgen is trying to get one.

clairethewitch70 Mon 13-Mar-17 12:04:34

She wants control taking away from Westminster and handed over to Merkel?

Splinters6 Mon 13-Mar-17 12:05:14

I just started another thread on this. I hope you all vote to stay but I actually think she's right to do it this time considering how Scotland voted last June.

silversparkles Mon 13-Mar-17 12:06:17

Does Nicola have nothing better to do?

hmm

MorrisZapp Mon 13-Mar-17 12:06:26

Wtf is Nicola playing at? Support for indy hasn't increased since the last time and the oil economy is in freefall.

MorrisZapp Mon 13-Mar-17 12:08:05

Well here we go again then. Goodbye kitten pics, hello nothing but indy shite on Facebook for the foreseeable... I'm bored, weary and cynical and it hasn't even started.

MorrisZapp Mon 13-Mar-17 12:08:40

Sorry, in answer to op. Was no, still no.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 13-Mar-17 12:09:17

Good. I think Brexit counts as a fairly massive "material change in circumstances". The UK Scots narrowly voted to remain part of will no longer exist after Brexit. Scots were told the only way to remain in the EU was to remain in the UK.

It is only fair, democratic and right that Scots get given the chance.

It will be interesting to see.if NI follows suit.

Isadora2007 Mon 13-Mar-17 12:13:10

Fizz
"The first minister says that if the Scottish Parliament gives her the authority to hold another independence referendum, then the UK government will have to accept that. "
Scottish parliament isn't likely to say no...

FuckOffDavid Mon 13-Mar-17 12:14:46

My vote won't change. I'll vote yes again.

QueenFuri Mon 13-Mar-17 12:14:54

I was a yes last time and I am most definitely a yes this time. I know many people who voted No last time and say if they had the chance again would vote yes

alltouchedout Mon 13-Mar-17 12:14:57

I don't live in Scotland so don't have a vote. But last time I hoped very much you'd vote to stay and this time I'll be hoping you grab the chance to leave.

Valentine2 Mon 13-Mar-17 12:15:51

Claire
Yes. Just as England voted to take back control from Juncker and give it to the most incompetent lot UK has ever seen in Westminister. But that's democracy. Scotland voted Remain. They have the right to leave if they want to stay in EU.

OrionsAccessory Mon 13-Mar-17 12:16:22

I can't really be arsed with another referendum tbh but I'll still vote yes

Igneococcus Mon 13-Mar-17 12:16:47

But there is absolutely no guarantee that Scotland will be in the EU, none.

MorrisZapp Mon 13-Mar-17 12:19:16

Can anyone clarify the position of an independent Scotland and the EU? Would we be part of it?

Y0uCann0tBeSer10us Mon 13-Mar-17 12:19:42

Well that's put a downer on my morning sad

I'm not surprised in all honestly, she'd left herself no choice really after all the demands and statements that she definitely wasn't bluffing.

Having watched the press conference she almost had me convinced that 'giving Scotland the choice' was the right path - she actually sounded quite reasonable, which is a welcome change from all the whining and demanding we've had in recent months. I did notice from the questions afterwards though that she still has no answers to all the fundamental questions, and it's still a no from me.

What struck me was that she seems to be laying out a clear choice between the UK and the EU, which is a little disingenuous as all evidence points to us not being able to remain in the EU if/when the UK leaves. She even admitted that despite lots of 'warm feeling' from the EU they will only deal with the UK.

TheHiphopopotamus Mon 13-Mar-17 12:20:18

She wants control taking away from Westminster and handed over to Merkel

This is the thing I can't understand. They're so desperate to get away from English 'rule' and yet are happy to be told what to do by the EU. That isn't independence as I understand it. Am happy to have it explained by someone who understands more than I do though.

I also don't think and independent Scotland would be able to get EU membership on their own anyway.

ShakeofFara Mon 13-Mar-17 12:21:56

I voted yes last time and will do so again.

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