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He lied about so many things.

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Pancakemixx · 12/06/2021 11:29

I've got rid of a man this week I've been involved with for quite sometime. He's late 40s and seems to have something going on that I am not aware of. I can't diagnose him but I'm suspicious of borderline personality disorder. I've found out in recent weeks alot of what he said is the opposite to what is really happening.

For example he told me his last relationship ended mutually. But I've now found out they split due to him drinking and cheating. Messaging other women.

He told me alongside the mutual split they were just great friends now and communicate on a regular basis due to this. But I think now it's an emotional tie they still have. He's not gotten over his behaviour ruining what they had. She's not over him either it seems. It's been 2.5 years and they still have the door open for eachother. Trauma bonding? I don't understand why they are constantly in touch after all the pain.

He said he had a car in the garage being fixed. Turns out it's his car from his younger days that now is no good for his bad back, due to the sporty seats etc. He can't part with it because his ex bought him it 12 years ago. It has their initials on the number plate. So he has no car.

He told me he would never use dating apps. He said if he can't go out and pull then there's a problem.i found out Monday whilst we were on a break he was screwing a woman from tinder for a few weekends. She slept at his. I was trying to cope with my misery at the time whilst he was having sex.

He has nothing to do with his dad or sisters. He blames them ofcourse.

He told me an ex school friend of his and he had sex after his ex. She then went back and told his ex everything and caused him aload of stress. I've found out since he had a four month fling with this woman and promised her a future. He was drinking heavily still and was desperately trying to get his ex to stay with him. Ive had Alot of details about those four months from this woman and she recalls his ex crying in the background when she called him once. Plus she said his ex told her he was begging for her to stay and buying her flowers everyday and pleading. This woman still allowed him back into her life despite being back with her husband. He was in contact with her whilst we were together.

I've heard several stories about women getting the wrong end of the stick with him and how he had to block them etc.

He has a full time job that pays well but he's terrible with Money. No savings. No property. No usable car. No furniture etc.

He's prescribed opiates for pain. He told me he took some on the last bank holiday then two day later told me he never takes them now and has paracetamol. Blatant lies. Having people around for a cuppa then the next day they were drinking beer and smoking weed in his house.

I found out he has a history of alcohol use. He's sober now but I don't think he's ok. I think he has alot of emotional baggage. He also smoked weed etc.

He is always flipping his moods. Up one minute. Down the next. When he's in a bad mood he will call me names like typical woman. Blame me for being insecure. Say I drive him mad etc. Then he seems hyperactive and silly. He can be funny when he's like this but it's actually a very immature behaviour for his age.

He does say things to put me down. It can be about personality or appearance.

His stories change. He's inconsistent. He has history of suicide attempts. Wreckless driving. No solid friendships. Borrowing money. Terrible sleeping patterns etc.

He met me and hid all of the above so perfectly. He was present. Gifts. Romantic. Funny. Supportive. Interested.seemed to be getting his life in order. Just seemed like a nice guy who had given his ex everything so she was ok and left with nothing.

Then since April more and more stuff has come out. I dumped him Monday when I found out about the sex stuff.

I'm absolutely fine and got out when I realised be was lying. But I just can't understand this behaviour. How can someone be so false??

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Umberellatheweatha · 12/06/2021 11:37

Sounds like the standard narcissist (npd) bullshit tbh. He is that way because he has no empathy. Like a psychopath.

Possible explanations for why he is a cunt aside, the main issue is that he is one. A big old leach who wants to take your happiness and sanity from you.

Well done for getting out! Block the bastard on everything and dont be sucked back. Monsters are real.

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sunnyblackwidow · 12/06/2021 11:54

He's a classic narcissist...doubt let him get his hooks into you again!

More red flags here than a communist convention!

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SamW98 · 12/06/2021 12:10

Bin, block never let him cross your path again.

I spent a nearly 3 year relationship with a gaslighting narcissistic compulsive liar who even when presented with evidence that would stand up in a court of law, still carried on lying and denying things ever happened.
I've seen a video of him kissing his ex with his hand on her breast and yet he swore on his grandkids life it didn't happen.I saw messages between him an another woman (15 years his senior) telling her she's a dirty sexy naughty girl who needs a good spanking and he can't control his c*ck when he's around her - yet he denies he even knows her

Honestly save yourself more months or years of never knowing where you stand and bin his lying arse now

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SamW98 · 12/06/2021 12:10

And btw OP - what happened in the beginning is called Love Bombing - its a classic narc tactic

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Pancakemixx · 12/06/2021 12:11

He's well and truly lost me. I'm just so shocked how much he was hiding. I'm thinking what an earth makes a person that age behave like this.

I've blocked him anyhow and feel so much lighter this last couple of days without his negative vibes around me.

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Cazzamoomoo · 12/06/2021 12:13

You don't need to understand it OP, you just need to be glad that you are well rid of him and his bullshit.

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SamW98 · 12/06/2021 12:14

@Cazzamoomoo

You don't need to understand it OP, you just need to be glad that you are well rid of him and his bullshit.

Absolutely. Best thing someone said to me is that you can never understand it because you aren't made that way

Sadly narc's aren't capable of change. They lie so much that they actually believe they're telling the truth
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Pancakemixx · 12/06/2021 12:14

@SamW98

Yep when I caught him out lying about the fling he had and the tinder lady. Both times he desperately tried to turn the conversation onto me and my questions driving him mad. Obviously wanted me to beg him or say I'll stop.

He told me the tinder lady is a friend and there's no sex life in it. She had messaged me and described his house and everything. Yet he wasn't going to put his hands up.

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SamW98 · 12/06/2021 12:16

[quote Pancakemixx]@SamW98

Yep when I caught him out lying about the fling he had and the tinder lady. Both times he desperately tried to turn the conversation onto me and my questions driving him mad. Obviously wanted me to beg him or say I'll stop.

He told me the tinder lady is a friend and there's no sex life in it. She had messaged me and described his house and everything. Yet he wasn't going to put his hands up.[/quote]
Classic deflection. I had same. I was screamed at for 'giving him grief' and also told he has to lie because of how I am

They are sick people - just thank your lucky stars you saw the truth and escaped

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Pancakemixx · 12/06/2021 12:21

@SamW98

Yes it's a horrible situation to find yourself in. I'm switched on luckily and can already feel relief.

Did he eventually leave you alone? Everyone tells me he will come back.

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SamW98 · 12/06/2021 12:30

[quote Pancakemixx]@SamW98

Yes it's a horrible situation to find yourself in. I'm switched on luckily and can already feel relief.

Did he eventually leave you alone? Everyone tells me he will come back.[/quote]
He came back several time, begged me to take him back, give him a chance and try again.
He had been very ill and always used that to guilt trip me

He then went round telling people I begged him to go back, he didn't want me but felt sorry for me because I just couldn't let him go

We split in October 19 and right up until this Feb he was messaging me asking if we can be friends again. I told him no, I'm not interested and he still tells people I was the one who wanted to stay in touch - But I don't care any more, let him say what he wants, the control is gone

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Pancakemixx · 12/06/2021 13:45

Ok that's interesting. Tinder lady showed me a screenshot of him saying I dunno who she is unless it's the girl I've been talking to that I told to F Off!!! I was gobsmacked at that screenshot but it was the cherry on the cake.

I helped him buy a washing machine this week. He paid but I found him the right size etc. I've always done stuff to help him. Leant him money for a couple of days many times. He did pay me back. But still!

He went away before for 9 weeks in total. Came back after 2. Lasted three days. Came back after another 7. Always as cool as a cucumber. No apology. No effort. Infact each time he came back with even less for me. This time he was a joke. Couldn't even force himself to call me "beautiful" anymore. Stopped saying he loved me.

I turned into a little FBI agent. Although it wasn't hard. Tinder lady had appeared whilst we were apart and didn't live locally .she was allover everything he posted. She's 48 and claims she wasn't bothered about him. She has an 11 year old so didn't think he was good enough for her with his drink problems. So she just came for sex for a few weekends and decided she could not be arsed to drive anymore anyway. He said he wasn't ready for a relationship to her so they now just chat as mates (she must be stupid to want his friendship) but it seems they both have similar standards. She seemed nice but easy. I know I have quite high standards but sleeping at a stranger's house on the first night and giving him full sex with no protection seems abit easy. I made him wait weeks for that stuff.
Anyhow I'm 32 so she spoke down to me abit Monday. She said I will learn with age and I needed to block him and move on. Felt like saying to her I may be only 32 but my standards are alot higher. I own a house and I treat people with respect.

Sorry going off on a waffle here. I have learned that age really does not come into it.

I'm glad you found your strength. I'm never letting him back in now. He's a mess and he needs some serious therapy. My friends are less convinced I won't let him but I can feel it this time. All ideas of him being nice are gone.

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