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Hand hold please - asked DP to move out

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 07:14

Hi, a few weeks ago, I asked my DP to move out. Since I was pregnant (I have a toddler daughter), he has sulked, nitpicked, accused me of having affairs etc. He has explosive shouting bouts sometimes. At its worst, he was waking me up to shout at me. He has read my diaries. So it goes on. Every party, every occasion such as xmas, I have always done something wrong. I might find out 3 weeks later but I've talked to someone else for too long or sat in.the wrong place etc. Then he shouts. I can't reason with him. If i am quiet, that's wrong. If I try to state my viewpoint, it's just fuel for more shouting.

Recently, I decided that I had had enough. Told him he needs to go. It's my property. He hasn't contributed much. I was trying to keep the family going but I can't do it any more. He has threatened to leave us probably 20 times anyway, right from birth.

He is still here though, past his own proposed deadline to move out. He said once he's got his new property, he will come to get his stuff bits at a time and when he moves his furniture out, he doesn't want me to be there. He also wants to see my daughter every day.

How do I protect my furniture and property, keep my daughter with me as that's safest and keep this as amicable as possible? I am pretty quiet and grey rock (googled technique) as he gets angry quickly. It doesn't stop so I panic and leave the house. It's happened maybe 20 times.

He can never see it. And says I am the shouty one. He says he's never done anything wrong and that everything's my fault. I just want to be able to relax in my own home. I also want a happy life for my daughter.

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TooOldforBouncyCastles · 12/12/2020 07:20

www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/. You need more support to manage this. Please get help to manage this and stay safe

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QuietlyExcited · 12/12/2020 07:21

What he 'wants' is immaterial. Tell him what's happening. Tell him "you have to be out of here by...." tell him, "your stuff needs to be gone in one go. No coming back for bits and pieces as and when." Do you have any friends or family who could help you 'oversee' his eviction? It's your property, so if push comes to shove I would involve the police to have him removed.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 07:24

Thanks for the links. I've got family locally who could help, yes.

I am just scared it will all flare up.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 07:26

I just feel so worn out by the relentless picking, and felt violated by him reading my diaries.

And then ultimately, I am a soft sod. I start to worry about where he would go. Xxx

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movingonup20 · 12/12/2020 07:27

First of all Thanks it's hard isn't it.

As far as his belongings, do you have a (preferably male) family member who could be onsite to supervise him collecting his stuff. As far as a timetable, I would be a bit flexible because if he's only able to go into furnished accommodation he won't have much space, however his personal effects should be removed in one go, I suggest a 3 hour window for him to return to pack up. Alternatively you pack up his stuff of course. Experts recommend little and often for contact with toddlers, if you can facilitate most days then it is best for her, again ideally you can be amicable and trusting enough that he can spend time together with you and her sometimes, especially if his own living arrangements aren't child friendly but this doesn't work for everyone. (My friends ex puts the kids to bed some nights and stays in the evening so she can go to work, works for them

It will take time to get the right arrangement for you, and try to press upon him to consider anger management help. My ex was a bit like that, but we have a good relationship now as just friends

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 07:31

Thank you. I am crying with relief or appreciation of the support. It is really hard. Ultimately the person you met isn't who they are. Actually it's a bit like the film Split. Sometimes he's nice and caring. And then sometimes awful. I just don't know which one it will be so dread coming home sometimes.

Good suggestions on the timeframe. My family around me keep saying to just kick him out as they hate watching me being wrecked. I am scared to tell him how it will be because he'll get angry and it will kick off again. My daughter has seen too much shouting already. I don't think she should see any. X

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Dery · 12/12/2020 07:41

This man sounds like he could become dangerous. Tell your family that you need one or two family members around to be there when you ask him to leave. It would be good if someone could move in for at least a few days to support you. This is a domestic abuse situation so you are allowed to go outside the normal COVID rules.

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FippertyGibbett · 12/12/2020 07:45

Ask your family to support you in removing him today and change the locks.
If you’re scared of him ring the police for advice.

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frazzledasarock · 12/12/2020 07:46

Call women’s aid.

I wouldn’t give him a time frame as he’s had his own chosen time frame and has no intention of leaving.

Get a male family member over and tell him to leave, then when he’s he's one pack all his stuff up (toss everything into black bin liners), give him a deadline to pick his stuff up by leave, and leave bin liners by the door at deadline.

Once he’s gone change the locks.

Don’t let him come and go as he chooses or let him see your DD every day. You and she needs routine, every other weekend and once during the week so you each get equal down time together with your DD would be better. But only do that if you are sure she will be safe with him.

Contact needs to be somewhere that’s not your house he’ll only use the opportunity to argue with you and go through your things again if he gets entry back to your house.

Stop feeling sorry for him. He’s chosen to abuse you. He’s chosen not to pay his way. He managed fine before he met you he’ll survive living back to however he lived before he met you.

I’d listen to your family and get shot of him sooner rather than suffering him indefinitely.

He’s not going to leave quietly or happily no matter how long you give him.

Don’t give him ultimatums get him out of your house first then tell him he’s got x date to pick up his stuff. And don’t let him access to your house once he’s left he sounds like the kind of gem who’d strip your house of everything and trash anything left.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 07:54

Thanks. This is what I am worried about. He has conversations about how we can all be friends going forwards but then others where he points out what he's paid for in the house. Not much.

But I suspect he'll be taking stuff he considers his at spatula-level.

The bit that shakes me the most, is if when it all gets heated, I try to explain calmly some of what's gone on, he just says I've made it all up. I haven't made anything up.

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frazzledasarock · 12/12/2020 08:05

Stop listening to him or arguing with him. He can say what he likes.

He sounds dangerous and unstable. Get himout of your house quickly and safely to you.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 08:09

I think you're probably all right. The bit I hate is that I feel I can't escape it. He will also be the Dad to my daughter. And in the same town.

He started shouting at me this week and I fled the house to a friend's. I feel like I can't breath then and can't escape. Without this I am usually so happy to be me. Xx

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TooOldforBouncyCastles · 12/12/2020 08:12

This is why you need to have this behaviour recorded by other agencies who can advocate for you in the future

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 08:18

Thanks, @TooOldforBouncyCastles. I did go to counselling last year. I hadn't spotted what was happening until then.

I didn't realise how often something was happening. I tell my Mum too. Sometimes I've said to her....does this blow up every few months....and she's looked at me and said, 'something not acceptable nearly every day.'

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/12/2020 08:21

What the others have written here, particularly frazzledasarock's comments.

Pregnancy and birth are often flashpoints where abusive individuals really show their true selves.

Where he goes ultimately is NOT your problem, please get that into your head. You are not responsible for him at all. You feeling at all sorry for him will just further delay your recovery from his abuse of you and in turn your DD. He does not care one iota for you and your DD. Such men too hate women, ALL of them.

Anger Management courses are no answer to domestic violence which is what this is. I would also think he can and does control himself around other people so it is to you primarily (and in turn your DD) that his abuse is directed.

Going forward I would give your as yet unborn child your surname rather than his and also complete the Freedom Programme which can be done online. I would also urge you to contact the National Domestic Violence helpline.

If he wants to see his child going forward then I would arrange all access through the court system, no informal arrangements. Mediation too is a non starter given the abuse he has and continues to mete out.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/12/2020 08:23

Abuse like you describe is pretty much insidious in its onset and does creep up on people unawares. Your main priority now is you and your own safety as well as that of your DD.

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Dullardmullard · 12/12/2020 08:24

The next time he starts shouting leave and phone the police on him this is domestic abuse and they will deal with it. You are in fear of your life hence having to leave Your home.

As your daughter is young agree only to every other weekend and one day a week till it’s established and you can change it once he’s shown he can be a dad to her without you. If he can’t don’t pussy foot around and give in as he’ll use it against you in the future if he tries the court route plus watch out for that one when you do put him out. It’s bollocks and is used to put you back in your box. Mine tried it and I told him see you in court. He never did do the court thing and never saw his son past 3 years old.

You can’t be friends with this man ever as he’s abusive. Don’t fall for that one either.

Contact womanaid and do the freedom programme online if not England & Wales

Inform the police the day you ask him to leave as I think he’ll turn nasty and can be their most dangerous or have family there as you’ll find he’ll kick off with whatever excuse is convenient.

Good luck and keep posting too as it helps to vent when feeling shit.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 08:24

Thanks @AttilaTheMeerkat. There's just my daughter. I decided very early not to put myself in such a vulnerable position again so only one child and no more pregnancies. Xxxx

Thanks everyone. You're helping heaps. You're right. I need to get on with it. X

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wowfudge · 12/12/2020 08:29

Actually I think I would speak to the police. It sounds to me as though he is on the verge of being violent towards you or trashing the house. He knows now he doesn't control you and he'll be seething about it as his narrative is that he "wins".

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suggestionsplease1 · 12/12/2020 08:30

I'm so sorry to hear you're going through this OP. My friend was in a similar situation this week and finally opened up to me about how serious the emotional abuse was becoming. Again her partner had threatened to leave 4 times in 2-days and had returned each time. He had also put a leg over the balcony saying maybe he should just jump off. It was her house and he had used the Covid situation as an excuse not to leave ....arrived for a weekend and then never left. So maybe a slightly different situation as a shorter 3 month relationship.

The advice I gave my friend when we were out walking was too not engage him in conversation any further. She had got into a pattern of trying to reason, justify and excuse herself and I could see from his communications he was clearly abusive and manipulative. When it gets to the stage there is no reasoning with people, you just need to firmly state your boundaries and don't add anymore more that can be be seized upon to renegotiate.

He had never been physical but was clearly volatile so we did involve the police to ensure she could safely get back to her flat and ensure he had finally gone. They were happy to do this. Thankfully he had in fact already left and my friends changed the locks the next day and alerted the concierge of the building.

On her walk with me she just stated in text exchanges that he needed to leave and that the police would be there with her when she returned to her home. Grey rock everything else. No justifications, no reply to questions, no caving to declarations of poverty or homelessness, no discussion of any other issues. Not when an abuser has insidiously taken over your home and made you feel unsafe.

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 08:32

You're also right on it creeping in.

You can right off a few incidents. I know you shouldn't. Then it becomes normal

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TitaniumTess · 12/12/2020 08:33

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REignbow · 12/12/2020 08:35

Please call WA immediately. I would also contact the police as well.


You are pregnant and he has ramped up his abuse, it’s good that you are sole tenant.

He needs to go today and you need to warn the police, that he is volatile and aggressive.

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silverribbonxmastree · 12/12/2020 08:43

I'm in a similar type situation to you OP but in reverse as I had to recently move out of the marital home (with kids) due to my STBXH's behaviour (he is an addict who is paranoid) as he refused to leave.

I am now in a situation where he double locks the house from inside (and rarely goes out) and won't let me have access to any of my stuff. The last time I tried to gain access he pushed me and proceeded to snatch my phone out of my hand (when I threatened to call the police) and then threw it across the room. I left immediately.

I am in the process of divorcing him. However, like you I am concerned that he will trash my personal items out of spite. My options are to get the local PCSOs to attend with me although I doubt I will be able to gain entry due to him ignoring me and double locking himself in the house.

Share your frustration and wish you the best 🌸

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AKissAndASmile · 12/12/2020 08:44

I'm worried for you, OP, he sounds dangerous
Definitely change the locks once he's gone.
He sounds like he has a personality disorder... Borderline Personality Disorder or something.

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