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Dancemagicdance42 Sat 26-Sep-20 14:19:13

Hi. Im worried about someone I care about.. Can I report anonymously to social services. Will they be able to trace a phone call or email?

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FlitterMouse Sat 26-Sep-20 14:23:56

Whats your worry. Are they in danger. How old are they.

Dancemagicdance42 Sat 26-Sep-20 14:26:18

Worried about a child and their mother. They are in imminent danger and police can't do anything. That's all I can say. The child is 3.5 years old.

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CodenameVillanelle Sat 26-Sep-20 14:26:29

No they won't. You should definitely report.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult Sat 26-Sep-20 14:31:48

What do you mean by imminent danger?

At this point calling SS may not be wise if it's going to alert the family that someone is watching out, but theres not evidence that there is something wrong.

You may well be better off talking to the mum and helping her get in touch with womens aid and get out of there, dependent on the situation of course.

Shayisgreat Sat 26-Sep-20 14:42:39

Yes, you can report anonymously to the children's services. They won't be able to trace you and they won't be able to tell the family who provided the information for the referral. But you won't be told if they choose to take any action.

Gobbycop Sat 26-Sep-20 14:46:38

Why can police not help?

If they are in imminent danger they are the only people that can help.

FlitterMouse Sat 26-Sep-20 15:21:36

Call the police if they are in imminent danger. Why do you think they can't do anything. You can also call childline. Are the mum and child able to leave safely and fet to somewhere safe.

Azif Sat 26-Sep-20 15:35:50

If danger is imminent you need to phone police and tell them what the danger is.
Are they are in an abusive household? Are you in contact with mum and child? It must be a terrible worry for you flowers

S111n20 Sat 26-Sep-20 15:43:05

Hard to say without knowing what is happening ? But if they are in danger why can’t the police help ?

JamieLeeCurtains Sat 26-Sep-20 15:47:47

Yes you can report anonymously - you can call the duty social worker on the help desk number on your council's website.

Tell them why you think the police won't help.

OverTheRubicon Sat 26-Sep-20 15:49:00

You may well be better off talking to the mum and helping her get in touch with womens aid and get out of there, dependent on the situation of course.

That is not good advice, given that the mum would presumably be taking action herself if she either recognised the danger or felt capable of changing it. There's also every chance that if you subsequently report it, they blame you. Better to let her know gently you support her, never say you'll report (or lie about not reporting) then call the police if it's urgent, or.otherwise NSPCC or social services anonymously.

KimKsButt Sat 26-Sep-20 15:52:59

If its to do with domestic violence can you call women's aid to get some advice? I have a friend who works for a women’s refuge and she often has to post advice on social media contradicting some of the popular advice, it’s a far more complicated situation than you think.

3teens2cats Sat 26-Sep-20 15:54:39

If they are in immediate danger then police have more powers than social services.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult Sat 26-Sep-20 16:00:16

That is not good advice

It obviously depends on the situation, but it is sound advice actually.

Alerting a potentially dangerous person to the fact the family is being watched could drive them to isolate the mother and child. If, for example, the guy is making threats, social services show up, they deny it, SS mark it as a malicious call, then nobody is any better off and they will have none looking out for them.

Quietly supporting the mother and child to leave would enable the op to keep an eye on the situation, and help.

It's all speculation just now, and nobody can give proper advice because we dont know the situation, but sometimes its not best to dive in reporting things right away as it could cause more problems than it solves if theres nothing very obviously wrong.

Kanaloa Sat 26-Sep-20 16:30:05

If they are in imminent danger does it matter if they know who called social services? I don’t know the situation but it doesn’t seem like there is a good alternative to calling and getting help.

OverTheRubicon Sat 26-Sep-20 16:53:59

If they are in imminent danger does it matter if they know who called social services?

It does if the bloke is violent, has violent friends, and you are a single elderly lady living next door and terrified. Or if you're a teenager reporting your own parent. Any number of reasons.

Craddle64 Sat 26-Sep-20 18:16:29

Imminent danger? You call 999 not post on MN. Do you know what imminent means?

scrivette Sat 26-Sep-20 18:21:13

Imminent danger is 999, all the Safeguarding training I have done makes this very clear.

user1471082124 Sat 26-Sep-20 19:11:29

You should call social services. They will undertake a multi agency check, school, hv etc.
The victim may deny the abuse but it is logged. Any further information received after this of further concern/ incidents increases the concerns.
The child, child’s nursery and wider family maybe contacted depending upon the nature of the referral. If you are concerned for their safety make the referral. If the women goes to women’s aid, they will also make the referral to keep the child safe. This is statute under The Children’s Act and Working Together.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult Sat 26-Sep-20 19:33:37

Womens aid don't automatically make a referral to SS at all, and it's pretty dangerous to state that as fact. That will potentially put someone in a dangerous situation off calling for help.

Any referrals are made on a case by case basis.

Social services also don't always do a multi agency check either. Sometimes it's simply a letter or a call or a quick visit. It's all totally dependent on the situation which op hasn't clarified.

Littlefrog99 Sat 26-Sep-20 19:41:45

Yes you can make an anonymous report. I don't know if it's the same for all local authorities but mine still have to take your contact details. They do give assurances that your details won't be shared though. If you think that a child is in danger then you must report it to someone.

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