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He told me he’d lost his child in an accident

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myredcardiganbob · 23/02/2020 11:18

I posted a thread the other week asking for advice about how to ‘get over’ the embarrassment of making a mistake. The jist of it was that I sent a message to a fairly new date after not hearing from him since the day before which was unusual (more than 24 hours), he sent an angry response saying his parents had been involved in a car accident and he’d been busy with that (sorry, I don’t know how to link the thread). We spoke on the phone the following night, all seemed to be okay, he apologised for snapping in his message reply and I apologised for thinking he had perhaps changed his mind about me. We then messaged normally for the next few days and made an arrangement to meet the following weekend. On the day, I didn’t hear from him with his train time and have heard nothing since (and don’t expect to!).

On our very first date, he told me that his elder daughter had been killed by running out in front of a car at the age of 4. He and his wife went on to have another daughter, who is now coming up for 2, but that their marriage just couldn’t survive their grief and that was the reason for their separation. His first daughter was mentioned very naturally through all of our dates, how different she was in temperament to their other daughter; what the months felt like following her death and so on; how his parents felt etc.

Last weekend, knowing that I wasn’t going to hear from him, I had a social media nosy (I hadn’t done anything like that while we were seeing each other). He has no fb profile which he’d already told me, but his wife does. They are definitely not together... but there is no sign of there ever being an older daughter. None at all. Not that I expected a death announcement or anything like that but there was simply nothing and the dates of all of their photos didn’t give an opportunity for there to have been a child, if that makes sense (holiday pics, family parties, weddings etc). In Scotland, records of all births, marriages, divorces and deaths have to be in the public domain, you can search for them via the national records website. So I looked there. There was no birth or death record of this wee girl.

I cannot fathom why someone would tell such a despicable lie, I’ve made peace with the fact I’m no longer seeing this person but as the days go on, I feel more and more upset about being so conned, in fact I feel really funny about it. What kind of person makes up a story like that and what does it say about me that he ‘needed’ to make something like this up? I know people can tell untruths and exaggerate in dating but this story was bloody awful.

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differentnameforthis · 23/02/2020 11:23

but there is no sign of there ever being an older daughter. None at all You are unreasonable if you think everyone would share this on SM. The wive's account could be locked down. I have nothing public on my fb, because I don't want strangers knowing about me.

You do not know that he categorically made it up.

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MummyOfBoyAndGirl · 23/02/2020 11:24

It's a sick thing to lie about. I would focus on it being a lucky escape you did not spend more time with him & forget about him entirely

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MummyOfBoyAndGirl · 23/02/2020 11:25

Though it could be as the above poster has said and they have deleted old pictures of her from SM.

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Branster · 23/02/2020 11:26

Maybe she removed all evidence of the first child or maybe she wasn’t using social media at the time. The child could have been born abroad.
There could be a million explanations.
As you are still in what appear to be the early stages of a relationship and you already feel the need for further evidence to substantiate his stories, it’s probably best to forget about him. Once the seeds of doubt are planted, there’s no going back. Best to leave well alone.
It can’t be nice to feel that you are, potentially, being lied to about something as big as this.

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shuuush · 23/02/2020 11:28

My DD died and unless you knew me very well no one would know that I lost a child a few years ago.

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slipperywhensparticus · 23/02/2020 11:28

My ex said his son died the only record of a child with that name in that area at that time is still alive I try not to let it bother me we are definitely split and over but there is a part of me that feels really sad about his lying but the thing is I could be wrong

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YorkshirePud1 · 23/02/2020 11:29

People are strange. My friend met someone online and later found out they lied about so many things - overcoming cancer, ex-wife taking her own life and other things that made him seem so brave for getting through 🙄 . Really strange. Maybe it's an attention thing, I don't know, but sounds like you had a lucky escape.

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AudaCityLimits · 23/02/2020 11:29

Can the above posters not see the bit about BMDs in Scotland being in the public domain? The OP checked. There was no such child.

It's fucking horrific OP. The fact that someone can make up a sick story and then appear as being normal and nice is so scary.

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Thisisworsethananticpated · 23/02/2020 11:30

Just assume it’s a lucky escape from
Either a pathological liar , or a very damaged man

Maybe you should think about the signs you missed and develop some filters do you don’t get conned again ?

Onwards

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Oliversmumsarmy · 23/02/2020 11:30

Sounds like you had a lucky escape

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AnneKipanki · 23/02/2020 11:34

Sounds a bit odd .
It would have been in local papers.
It would be in the registers too .

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Lelophants · 23/02/2020 11:34

He sounded v odd anyway OP, lucky escape I think.

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Whynosnowyet · 23/02/2020 11:37

Odd thing to disclose on a first date imo...

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GulliBelle · 23/02/2020 11:37

It's common than you'd like to believe. I know someone who had a bf who did this, not idea of his motivation but he lied a lot about everything, including pretending he owned the flat he was renting.

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AnneKipanki · 23/02/2020 11:37

Yeah , some people just lie .

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myredcardiganbob · 23/02/2020 11:40

I’m so sorry with regards to giving an impression that I’d based this only on social media - in Scotland all births, marriages, divorces and deaths have to be made available as statutory records and are in the public domain via the national records website. I am hugely appreciative that on losing a child, many, many people would have nothing on their social media to acknowledge this, I do completely understand that.

It’s that there’s no record of the wee girl ever existing according to statutory records in Scotland. I am sorry again that I offended those who have lost a child by giving an impression I’d formed an opinion based on social media only.

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Candymay · 23/02/2020 11:41

Echo the others- you’ve had a lucky escape. Next time don’t give a second chance after the angry message.

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Chamomileteaplease · 23/02/2020 11:41

and what does it say about me that he ‘needed’ to make something like this up?

Absolutely nothing. Please don't think that this was anything to do with you. It sounds like he is a pathological liar and as others have said, you are so lucky to have escaped him relatively early on.

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Candymay · 23/02/2020 11:42

You made it clear in your post that you had checked BMD records.

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anotherlittlechicken · 23/02/2020 11:42

@myredcardiganbob Eh? Confused

None of what you say PROVES he never had that first daughter (who sadly died.)

My DC have a pal whose 2 brothers were killed when she was 7. She doesn't plaster it all over fecking facebook! They also have half a dozen or so other friends who have lost a family member, and they don't post about it on social media either! For many people, it's too raw.

How did you manage to find out so MUCH about this 'wee girl' to find out she allegedly doesn't exist?

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Greenglassteacup · 23/02/2020 11:42

Were they living in Scotland at the time he says this child died though?

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YorkshirePud1 · 23/02/2020 11:44

OP you didn't give that impression, don't worry. You did say that you'd checked records too. It's a horrible thing for him to have lied about and you'll never know the reasons he did. Some people are just liars and lie about terrible things.

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AnneKipanki · 23/02/2020 11:44

OP definitely wrote she checked legal records NOT just SM .

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FizzyGreenWater · 23/02/2020 11:44

Your post was clear OP.

You had a very lucky escape.

And yes, I would have checked too.

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RightOnTheEdge · 23/02/2020 11:45

I'd be very careful just in case you are wrong. It does seem strange though that he sent you an angry message about his parent's accident (if there even was one).
Why was he so angry? You didn't know.

Just think of it as a lucky escape and move on. I don't think your missing much.

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