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My Boyfriend’s Father is nastily disapproving of me because I’m British.

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smendo · 08/12/2018 19:04

Hello, my name is Sonya, I’m 29 and I recently moved to an island of Spain for work but I unexpectedly fell in love with a colleague from here who I have known for 5 years but only dated for 1 1/2 of them.
It has been a whirl wind romance like you see in the films. He makes me feel so good about myself and loves holding me it’s something I have never felt before and being a divorcee this is amazing! However after only 6 months of living together his father made it very clear I wasn’t good enough. He told his son he could have me as a girlfriend but not a wife. I was devastated.
I have a bachelors degree, I’m pretty (not blowing my own trumpet) I’m kind. The first thing his mother told him when she met me 5 years ago was that I was so smiley! - that’s another thing I should mention the rest of his family really like me. His sister right the way through to his grandmother and none of his family speak English!
Originally they are all from Greece and moved here for a better life so as Greek families are they are very close and for me who is from a single parent home I have had to adjust.
So not only have I moved to a new country and started to learn spainish but when they are all together they only speak Greek so to prove myself I have been learning that too!
I have worked so hard to turn the other cheek to the fathers cruelty and because he thinks I don’t understand he even says it in front of me. I can see in my boyfriend how much it hurts him as he is in the middle and his father treats him like dirt. He isn’t a warm man anyway but my goodness he goes days ignoring him to make him feel small and my boyfriend is like an abused puppy sitting at his abusers feet!
It’s like nothing I have ever known.
I have flown thousands of miles away from my family and I’m here alone but my mother wishes nothing but the best for me and accepted I had to do this for myself.
I understand that their culture is different and they put family before everything but he is asking his son to give up happiness with me to make himself happy.
Last week his father told him ‘she won’t be good for our family as British girls don’t respect marriage, they are dirty, they party and can’t cook.’ He is a clear misogynist and I think also dislikes that I have a career.
My boyfriend is caught in a hard place and I have never asked him to choose and I never will. But this is unbareable for me, I’m am not somebody who likes conflict and I am a strong willed woman. I have taken to just ignoring him like he does me for my own mental health.
I don’t know what to do as I deeply love my boyfriend and him me. He is fighting to keep me but he won’t speak up for me and tell his father enough, she isn’t going anywhere as he’s terrified his dad will turn his back on him and make his family do them same.
It’s all so horrible and confusing.
I did tell my boyfriend if you do what he is asking and you give me up you will never forgive him or yourself. This will also not be the only thing he will ask you to give up on, this is the first but not the last! As he controls my boyfriend’s money as stupidly when he was younger to make sure he saved money he asked his mother to have access. So any time we decide to go anywhere he has to ask for access and he gets a huge speech like he’s 15 yrs old.
Which leads me into another hurdle my boyfriend, his mother and father are saving for a house together. At first I thought this was quite nice as my mother is getting older and one day she will move here and live with me however this has only tied up his money even more. We can’t even buy a TV together let alone save for our own future together! As the father doesn’t want me around so doesn’t let him spend the money without a huge argument. I desperately want to get him away from them so he can live his own life. I can see he wants it too he’s just so afraid.
I don’t believe I should give up on this for a backwards thinking man that ultimately doesn’t see the world outside his own.

Thank you if you kept reading, I appreciate your time and wisdom on this!

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Ratbagratty · 08/12/2018 19:07

I'm afraid it isn't up to you, your bf had to want to get away and take control of his own life, probably starting with finances. You can support him, but you cannot do it for him.

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DeRigueurMortis · 08/12/2018 19:19

Walk away.

Nothing is going to change.

You're helping finance someone else's lifestyle/dream to your own detriment whilst they crap all over you.

If you're boyfriend really cared about you he'd not stand for how you are being treated.

The fact he does shows where you stand in the pecking order. At the bottom.

Yes he might be "wonderful" in private, but anyone whom allows their partner to be treated so badly by his family isn't a good person. He's simply manipulating you into thinking he's worth it by overcompensating.

Honestly you need to take a step back from all the "love".

Good relationships make your life better, make you feel secure and are based on mutual respect.

You have none of that whatsoever.

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Grannyannex · 08/12/2018 19:31

So why hasn’t your DP changed his financial access? It’s his cash, he needs to be in charge of it. Very strange that he’s accepting it and not reorganising the set up. How can you ever have a shared future together if he’s accepting this?

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Woooman · 08/12/2018 19:33

You could be describing my FIL. My dh's family are Italian and my FIL has similar views about British women. Tbh he doesn't seem to like any women but least of all British women because of the same reasons your BF's father gives. Over the 15 years I've been with my dh my FIL has ignored me for periods of time, spoken rudely to me and my family, tried to belittle me, embarrass me, dismissed me etc. He is a truly horrible man. He also treats his family like crap and they all run back to him like puppies. It doesn't matter what he does they end up defending him and rallying around him. I guess it's due to abuse they've all suffered from him over the years.

My dh used to let him be vile to me and make excuses for him. However, after dealing with the shit directed at me for a number of years I finally broke down in a very public place in view of family and friends and my dh finally grew a backbone and defended me and had defended me ever since. His father now tends to leave me alone and I can tolerate being around him on the odd occasion I see him. I also don't take any shit off him anymore. If he's rude to me or says something I disagree with then I stand my ground and tell him he's being rude, talking crap etc etc. This doesn't come naturally to me as I'm a soft person normally and hate confrontation, however, I got to a point where I couldn't deal with his crap anymore. My dh also backs my corner every time and has done for a long time now.

However, if I could go back in time knowing what I know now I'm not sure I would have married my dh knowing how difficult and unpleasant his father is. I love my dh a lot but his father makes life difficult for us all. Tbh, I would cut your losses and move on.

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Grannyannex · 08/12/2018 19:33

Ask him now. Why doesn’t he change the set up and remove parental access to his money?

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LadyGodivasOperation · 08/12/2018 19:35

Leave before children are involved.

You will only have misery ahead. He will choose his family over you.

Get out now, there are many nice young men out there who wont let you be mistreated.

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Grannyannex · 08/12/2018 19:35

Why isn’t your DP saving for his own house?

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DPotter · 08/12/2018 19:45

With love and respect I'm hoping your not pregnant - the post is in the Pregnancy section.

I'm sorry but I think you're going to loose this one. Your BF may love you but he sounds like he fears his father more than he loves you.

You need to decide what your bottom line is and then agree this and a way forward with your BF. And if he can't / won't agree I think to save so much future heart break you need to leave them all to it. You leaving could, only could be the push your BF needs to leave them, but to be honest it's an outside hope.
At the very minimum he should be in charge of his own finances.

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smendo · 08/12/2018 19:53

@grannyannex because he is the only son so in his culture it’s his duty to look after his parents and when he was 16 they decided to save for a house. I don’t think they thought about their sons future if I’m honest only their own. As one day their son would want to marry - greek, Russian whatever but they obviously planned on a simple girl that could be lead. Not me!

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smendo · 08/12/2018 19:58

Yes sorry I realised that when I posted. I’m on my phone and the site is a little harder to use. I reposted on relationships but you are all being so great on this thread I appreciate everything you are saying and taking it all in!

@woooman thank you for sharing your story and crazily they are similar! It is a unpleasant situation but I don’t have to think seriously about what to do next.

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Heartbrokengirl14 · 08/12/2018 21:01

I think you need to sit him down and explain your feelings if he refuse to challenge his dad and not try and create a future with you then just leave and find someone who cares about you enough to respect and care you

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Dontaskmyname · 08/12/2018 21:05

Well, if it makes you feel any better, my FIL is exactly the same and he is British born and bred. I recognise the ways well, even down to financial abuse and controlling his son’s money/savings. Sorry to break this to you, it’s not gonna get better. I speak from 16 years experience. If I didn’t love and respect my OH as I much as I do, I would have walked away long time ago as nothing is worth the grief. Walk into it with your eyes open, knowing that you will always have this level of vitriol, hatred, contempt and ill will, even though you do not deserve any of it. Good luck, you’re gonna need it!

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smendo · 09/12/2018 21:39

Thank you to the new comments I am thinking hard about what you are saying!

A new development - we have been in our new apartment a month now and it doesn’t have a washing machine my BF asked his mother if it was ok to use theirs for the time being and she was totally fine with it. The last 3 times the father has been in and has moaned things like ‘I don’t want you using it if your mother isn’t here you’ll break it!’ etc.
So yesterday we went round with a load and because I feel guilty I try to keep it to once a week so it’s a big load.
We came round the corner and straight away the dad said ‘oh back again with more clothes! I don’t want you bringing big bags of clothes.’
I hit my limit. I went straight to their laundry room and said in Greek ‘what’s the problem?’ But my BF ignored me and was speaking to his father in the other room.
I started to divide our dirty laundry and only put my BF’s clothes in. His mother came in and said ‘don’t worry do all of them.’
Starting to cry I replied no it’s ok I’ll take them home and started to bring my bag out. My Bf came in and saw me crying.
I kept saying no problem I’ll take mine home.
His mother took them from me and said no but it was all too much and in 1 1/2 years his family have never seen me cry so I just ran out the house! My BF chased after me and comforted me.
He wanted to take me for coffee to get some space but I left my handbag inside. So we had to go back. We stayed outside the front door for a moment as the dad was yelling but to my surprise the mother was defending me - in soft tones but still I was shocked. My BF went in to get my bag and we left.
Today the father hasn’t been able to make eye contact with me. It doesn’t feel like the normal vibe of judgement, it’s awkward and he didn’t come into the sitting room when we went to get our laundry, he left. Do you think he is embarrassed? Or maybe finally seeing me as a young woman that is the same age as his own daughter and is realising what a beast he has been to me?

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Lifeisabeach09 · 09/12/2018 22:08

You will lose respect for your partner the longer you are together. Who wants a partner who doesn't defend them?!
Your partner is spineless. As the only son, this should empower him to put his dad in his place as his dad will not want to lose him.
I'm sorry, OP, but love really doesn't conquer all.

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ChilliTree3 · 09/12/2018 22:10

The mother may see that they are pushing their son away. The parents may have the attitude that no woman will ever be good enough for their son. Options are hand wash which is hard work, use laundrette, find a way of paying for your own washing machine like on credit or take out a loan. If he is working, why can't he have access to his own money ? He will at some point need to choose you or his family.

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safetyfreak · 09/12/2018 22:22

You are not with a man but a boy. Good luck.

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Dontaskmyname · 10/12/2018 01:46

I know you are hoping it will change and you will win your hostile ‘FIL’ over in time. Sorry, but you won’t. Don’t waste your mental energy to guess what’s going on inside his head. It’s nothing good. You need to develop strategies either not to get this hostile attitude/behaviour get to you or remove yourself from contact with this person as much as possible. Given they are a Greek family, the latter is unlikely. They will want to get involved in everything.

Do what you see fit, but don’t for a minute think he’ll change and will come to love you as time goes on. The hell will sooner freeze over.

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