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Please someone help. How can I stop this obsessing.

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 15/04/2018 18:37

Hi everyone. I have been with new dp since early December last year. We met on a night out, got talking and here we are. Things are going well and we see each other a couple of times a week. I really like him. We get on great, laugh constantly, have the same values etc. But there’s one big thing in our relationship that is so pathetic but I can’t get over it. When he is busy (so on a night out, at work, just generally pottering etc) he takes forever to reply to messages. So example he stayed at my place Friday night. He left for work Saturday morning, text me on his break (about 11ish), I replied around 1 and the next time I heard off him was 7 o’clock when he said he’d been for a meal with his brother and was heading into town and that he hoped I’d had a nice day. He then text me when he got home about 2am (which I read and replied to this morning). He then messaged me about dinner time today and I haven’t heard off him since.

Now I suffer very badly with anxiety (which he doesn’t know about as I don’t talk about this with ANYONE except my counsellor). I am on medication and go to see a counsellor weekly. I am really trying to get myself better. But I’m tying myself into knots. I spend a lot of time on my phone and he doesn’t. When we are together he maybe looks at his phone once/twice (if that) in maybe a 10 hour period. So I know he’s not constantly on his phone and ignoring me. As well as this when I check to see if he’s online/been online he hasn’t been all day so again I know he’s not just sat online and again ignoring me. I KNOW he is busy and I KNOW not everyone is glued to their phone but I get myself so upset about it. It’s silly. I am a grown woman, responsible job, dc etc and I’m almost giving myself a panic attack because my boyfriend is taking longer than5 minutes to reply. It’s pathetic isn’t it?

My counsellor has explained about the anxious side of my brain and the rational side of my brain (and rationally I can see I am being stupid) but nothing seems to be helping. I feel like I spend my life checking my phone to see if he’s replied.

I know he’s busy and I know we don’t have to be in constant contact. My friend says I need to speak to him but really what can I say ‘when you are busy and having fun make sure you take time out to reply to my text about the soup I ate for lunch’. It’s just silly.

This is how it’s been since we very first met so it’s not as if contact is decreasing. He’s said before he has never been one to sit on his phone. And if anyone else takes a while to reply (and I am guilty of taking days!!) I dont give it a second thought yet when it’s him... I just lose my mind.

This is a ramble so I do apologise. My anxiety is overwhelming me today.

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 15/04/2018 18:38

Oh and we talk on the phone a few times a week too so it’s not just messaging

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 15/04/2018 18:40

Also I’ve tried putting my phone away, switching it off etc. But even then he’s constantly on my mind so it doesn’t work

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letsdolunch321 · 15/04/2018 18:45

You need to have other things to concentrate on

Maybe a hobby
Seeing friends/family
Having a pamper evening
Reading

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ADarkandStormyKnight · 15/04/2018 18:51

As you are confident that it's your anxiety that is the issue and not the relationship, could you try writing something on a bit of paper to remind yourself of that when you get anxious?

Also, have you tried anything like meditation or yoga to help you learn techniques to calm your mind?

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MMMckenzie25 · 15/04/2018 18:51

I had to reply when I read this, as this could have literally been me typing the this post a few years ago. I entirely empathise with that feeling, you drive yourself round the bend and the relief when they finally reply is immense but this cycle can be broken.

For me, I realised one day that the anxiety stemmed not from needing constant contact, but needing constant reassurance. In my anxiety riddled brain, I'd always worry I'd upset someone's or somehow done something to irk a friend/loved one. Ppl were meeting up without me because they didn't like me (and on and on the list goes). When I messaged them and they replied in a normal or friendly manner, I'd think "well they must like me if they've replied" and it would calm my nerves...until the next episode. How exhausting for my friends and me haha

The only thing that helped was to delete all media apps off my phone. To turn off all "last seen" privileges (myself included) and to go entirely cold turkey. It's not easy and doesn't happen over night. But I cannot tell you much easier it's made my demons. I don't even read the news anymore, ww3 could be here and I wouldn't know, lmao!

Don't feed your demons, you can beat this. Start finding self worth and realise that's it's others loss if they don't want to know you as you seem like a kind caring person. You do not need their blessing or constant reassurance, which for me is really where's these anxieties lay and the texting/ phone thing was just a covient front to manage my stresses.

Best of luck to you, hang in there, delete that toxic technology out of your life and I'd encourage you to discuss these worries with your Partner, explain that you don't need replies just support, you maybe very suprised!! X

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nicknamehelp · 15/04/2018 18:56

Perhaps try putting your own phone down a bit more as this may also help with your anxiety.

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IToldYouIWasFreaky · 15/04/2018 18:58

Anxiety can fuck off indeed! It's not pathetic, it's your brain.

I really feel for you as I am very similar. Very anxious about relationships after some bad experiences and I set far too much stock by messages. Like you, I know it's irrational but it's still there.

I have been seeing my boyfriend for the past 18 months and he is also not a big messager and will take ages to reply to texts. And it has caused me stress and has caused problems in our relationship when I have let myself get wound up about it.

What's made it better is talking to him about it. It's bloody hard to do as I didn't want to come across as too needy...but at the same time I do have needs! I have also had to accept that he just texts less than I would ideally like. It's just part of his personality and I accept that. I told him quite early on in our relationship that I have had problems with anxiety and how that can manifest without going into too much detail and definitely without saying "You have to answer my messages, or I will flip out!" Grin Later on, after we'd been together about a year, we had an honest chat about how things were going and I said how hard I found it when we didn't see each other for a while (we live in different towns) and he suggested talking on the phone every day, when we can both manage it. Since then, things have been loads better. If we have days when we don't message much, I can chill as I know we'll have a decent, proper conversation on the phone in the evening.

So what I suggest is:

  1. accept that this is just who he is. He might be prepared to meet you in the middle, as my lovely boyfriend has, but don't go expecting a massive personality change
  2. focus on his actions. Does he make time for you? Treat you with respect etc? Try to remember all of the good things about your relationship when the obsession with messages starts to take over.
  3. talk to him. At least to say that you have had problems with anxiety, and take it from there
  4. keep yourself busy so you are not constantly checking your phone. Do some kind of exercise where you can't have your phone on you (like swimming!) Exercise is great for anxiety too.
  5. If you are communicating on WhatsApp, TURN OFF LAST SEEN! It's the work of the devil. It tells you absolutely nothing of any value!

    The fact that he is busy, has a good social life and is not constantly glued to his phone are all really good attributes, IMHO. Also, the consistency of contact is a good sign! I really hope things go well for you both.
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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 15/04/2018 20:11

Thank You everyone. I have just spent the last half hour sobbing down the phone to the Samaritans Blush the anxiety was just... overwhelming. Truly truly feel like I couldn’t breath.

In regards to him, he is lovely and I feel secure as one can feel in the early stages. I have been hurt before and I suppose that carry’s over and I’m waiting for it all to go wrong which puts me on edge but that’s something I’m working on with my counsellor.

McKenzie you are so right in that my self worth is the source of these feelings. I don’t feel good enough/pretty enough/slim enough/nice enough so my is constantly feeding me negative things. This is something I’m trying to work on (without much success) as it transfers over to my work life, my feelings about being a mum, how I feel as a friend. I just feel like no one likes me or just puts up with me. Whereas the rational side of my brain tells me I’m a good, funny, kind person!

Freaky thank you for your post. It’s really made me think more rationally about it. This is who he is, I need to accept that as I am in an absolute cycle with this messaging thing. I REALLY don’t want to come across as needy, I’ve been told I’m needy in the past and have tried to work on it. He is very kind and attentive and the messages we send are quite long so it’s not like I’m waiting on a reply to ‘good morning xx’. I need to focus on the actions when we are together and focus on the positives.

Thank you all for taking the time to reply to me. I really appreciate it. Anxiety is a vicious thing and I am really trying to get the help I so desperately require but sometimes it all becomes too much.

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orangetriangle · 15/04/2018 20:37

i feel for you my daughter is exactly like this and her partner is exactly like your partner. I dont know the answer but i wish i did!!

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Gemini69 · 15/04/2018 22:09

STOP..... checking your phone.... Flowers

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honeybeeplusone · 16/04/2018 14:16

Hi, I read your post last night and cannot stop thinking of it... cos it describes very much what I am/have been going through!!!
It's tough so wanted to send you a big hug.... I think I'm getting better so here are a few things I found helpful:
Mindfulness - the more aware you are that these are just thoughts and you cannot control them, you just learn to let them be and carry on what you're doing...
Trying to fill the time with things I enjoy - reading a book or watching a film... I can recommend Reasons to Stay Alive - amazing book describes depression and anxiety so well and gives a lot of hope
Trying to be more in control of the messages... so write things in the notepad when really stressed/anxious and not send them for some time until I cool down... then Either redact them or bin them...
Trying to stop making assumptions about what he is doing/why he is not replying (usually I'm assuming I've done something wrong and it's never the case! So usually I'm 100% wrong!)
"Taking control" and not replying to his messages for a long time just to prove to myself I can!
Leaving the phone at home - again proving that I can survive without the constant messages...
Like you, I know it's pathetic... also sometimes I wait and wait for a message and he writes something that is totally not satisfactory... so I laugh at myself... but in a kind-hearted way... and think that it doesn't really matter... Sorry I'm rumbling.... just wanted to say you are not alone (you message made me feel like it's not only me struggling with this)... anxiety is awful and paired with the mobile phones... so hard sometimes... I hope you are feeling better today. Hugs.

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yetmorecrap · 16/04/2018 14:51

I feel for you as this must be horrible for you. Looking at it from the other angle, I really hate constant contact with people if its phones and texts. (and I'm pretty sociable in RL too) I had someone work with me who when not around would send 1 text after another over say a 20 minute period all the time and usually about sheer crap I didn't need to see corrected her spellings as well on further texts. !and if I didn't respond immediately would then start with Whats Apps. It used to send me nuts. Everyone is different about things like this and I am sorry you are anxious about it, as I'm sure its not you!! This will be their 'style'.

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ravenmum · 16/04/2018 15:01

I’ve been told I’m needy in the past and have tried to work on it.
That must be miserable; was it someone trying to blame you for a breakup?

What, specifically and with as much detail as possible, does your imagination think might be going on when he does not reply? What consequences do you think it would have? I ask as I personally find the fear is greater when it is vague and you don't look it in the eye, so to speak. When you do study it closely it turns out not to be quite as bad as all that.

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 16/04/2018 17:36

Hi everyone. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I’ve just burst into tears again Hmm

Yeah I was told I was needy when getting dumped last year. This time last year actually as we were pretty much at the exact same stage as my and current dp are at. I didn’t feel like I being needy, I didn’t overly text/ring, was fine with seeing eachother once a week, didn’t push to meet his family etc. So to hear I was being needy was a shock and I suppose it’s made me very, very aware of it.

Thank You Honey for your tips, it’s good to know I’m not alone in this. I feel so much better if I leave my phone upstairs/ switch off but then I’m justgojjg upstairs or switching it back on.

I think when he doesn’t reply for a while I feel like he’s getting sick of me/going off me and that when he DOES reply it’s a pity text/ feels like he should. Like today I’ve heard off him at 11. His text was chatty and nothing amiss but he hasn’t replied to my message so now I’m think he’s definitely going off me :(

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 16/04/2018 17:49

I seriously feel like I am losing my mind and 100% think he’s going off me :( do I ask him?

Don’t know where to put myself. The anxiety is just consuming me

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ADarkandStormyKnight · 16/04/2018 18:08

Could you distract yourself by doing other stuff for yourself? e.g. book into a regular yoga class/evening class, look up an old friend, look up some free talks in your area? Or just take advantage of the lovely weather to go for a walk. Bonus if its stuff you can talk to him about when you see him.

Anxiety is a bastard.

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 16/04/2018 18:13

Yeah I’m going to put my phone away, run myself a hot bath and just try and distract my mind. I’m just constantly running over when I last saw him to think what I could have wrong

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 16/04/2018 18:22

OP, I think you must be doing an 'ok' job of hiding your anxiety from him as from your first post, you don't reply instantly (as if you've been shot) as some people do. That's impressive in its own right.

I think if you could put your phone down, put it away even and just look at it a few times a day. There's nothing that can't wait because if people needed you urgently, they'd ring you.

I feel for this generation as they've never been without their phones and even earlier generations are picking up the habit. It's become obsessive and you recognise that so give yourself some credit there. :)

No though, don't ask him if he's going off you. I'm a very laid back person but that would be a red sign to me and might even trigger in him what you most fear. Don't do it - you can control that.

Your last post is positive - have your bath, listen to music, watch a film - and perhaps switch your phone off for a few hours. Nothing bad is going to happen. Thanks

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 16/04/2018 18:54

Still nothing :( I think I’m going skip the bath and just go to sleep

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lardass88 · 16/04/2018 20:30

Had to reply to this as this could be me. I'm in a 3 year relationship and my anxiety goes through the roof. In the early days it was almost unbearable and I'd constantly question if I was "normal" enough to have a relationship and that eventually my fella would tire of my psycho ways and Id end up alone and have to get 24 cats to keep me company. I'd check my phone constantly and read messages and analyse them and if I didn't hear from him straightaway my mind would go into overdrive. As time went on things became slightly easier. I recognised when I started going doo-Lally and Instead of messaging him a needy message or a arsey text id message my best mate to ask her opinion to see if I was being rational or not.
I used to turn my phone off. But that would last about a hour or so before I switched it back on again 🙄 in the end I sat my fella down and explained to him how my mind works sometimes and sometimes psycho lardass comes out but I can't help it. I don't think he gets it entirely but he loves me anyway and tries his best to reassure me and put
My mind at rest. Oh and I deleted every social media I had ( MN is the only thing I have now) as it really affected my mental health and my relationship.
Sorry if I've waffled on. I just wanted to let you know I know how you feel and it can get easier. Hang on in there xx

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ravenmum · 17/04/2018 09:05

Never skip the bath :) they are great for anxiety, I used to sit in the bath for an hour a day when anxious (before children!).

Do you really believe that story about you being too needy as the gospel truth? When breaking up with someone, some people like to paint them in the worst possible light as a "reason" why they want to split up. Your ex was looking for reasons and trying to make you think it was your fault. But when two people aren't compatible, that's nobody's fault. It isn't that one is too needy, or that the other is a commitmentphobe. It's that neither is on the same page. Your ex had not worked that out. Don't be pulled into his blame-game mindset. Take a step back and rethink that situation.

I think when he doesn’t reply for a while I feel like he’s getting sick of me/going off me and that when he DOES reply it’s a pity text/ feels like he should.
This is your common-or-garden anxious/depressive thought pattern and should be hit on the head with a large hammer. You need to practise recognising the pattern with your therapist. The more you are reminded that it is always this same pattern, the more you will believe that it might actually be a tiny bit skewed :)

Like I said, though, let's look it in the eye and imagine the worst comes to the worst and he doesn't want to be with you any more. Does that mean you are a bad person? No, it does not. It means he wants to be with a different type of person. People break up all the time - most of us have broken up with someone at some point - but that does not mean we are all bad people. Think of all those amazing Hollywood stars who must be really cool, laid back, interesting and of course gorgeous, but who have gone through girlfriends like you or I would go through shoes.

And would it be the end of the world? No, it wouldn't. You would be upset for a while. That's normal. Then you would gradually get over it. You might realise that he was right and you weren't compatible. Or that he was quite annoying and you are probably better off without him. Or that you weren't really over your ex and are probably better off avoiding a relationship for a while. Or that the guy from the newsagent's is really lovely and chatty and you are now single.

Have you ever broken up with anyone, from your side?

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ravenmum · 17/04/2018 09:13

You would hate being with my current bf by the way - at my age and in my country there are lots of people who don't message or use social media at all. I'll go days without hearing from him. Prior to him, though, I had a modern type who totally lovebombed me with constant messages - every morning, several times a day - but he was also far less reliable than Mr No Texts. I think he was texting quite a few women - I know for sure, as he told me, that he is now texting a married woman "innocently" without her husband knowing. More texts are not necessarily a great sign.

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IToldYouIWasFreaky · 17/04/2018 10:21

Prior to him, though, I had a modern type who totally lovebombed me with constant messages - every morning, several times a day - but he was also far less reliable than Mr No Texts

God yeah, me too! I've had a couple of these actually, constant texting, declarations of this that and the other and then it all goes poof! It's not really sustainable.

A constant pattern of good quality communication is much healthier and this sounds like what you have OP, if he's sending long, chatty messages in a consistent way. This is a GOOD THING!

I agree with previous posters saying talk to friends when you feel yourself starting to wig out. I have a few good friends I can talk to, who understand how I am, and help me re-connect with the rational side of my brain when the irrational "he must have gone off my as I have only had one message from him today and he didn't include a kiss" side tries to take over.

Look after yourself OP, keep talking to your counsellor.

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anothernamechanged · 17/04/2018 22:01

Oh God. I'm in the same boat. I am filled with anxiety at the moment. I've been seeing a guy for a couple of months. When we're together everything is great. But when we're apart he doesn't text much. He hates texting. He talk on the phone and that's great too. But I am driving myself insane convincing myself that he's lost interest in me and I actually feel that my attempt at not being crazy is going to come across as though I've lost interest. This is my first relationship since my husband cheated on me. I know that I would be the same with any future partner, because it's about my anxiety, not his actions or inactions. I'm thinking of ending it because the anxiety is just too awful to cope with. I'm not seeing a therapist but I probably should. Sorry this is all a bit rambly, my anxiety is at a peak and it's making me very agitated.

Have a look at the getselfhelp website for ways of coping with anxiety. A friend has recommended it to me and I looked at it previously and it has a lot of good resources.

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AnxietyCanFuckOff · 19/04/2018 18:48

Hi everyone, just got back from a work trip. FINALLY sat in the garden with a glass of wine. Haven’t had chance catch up with new posts but will have proper read later.

I’m not having a very good day. We had/have plans for tomorrow. He’s messaged me today to say something work related has come up and it won’t be done till 9 tomorrow. So I replied saying ‘ok no worries do you want to come round to my place after or we could go for a couple of drinks’. His reply was ‘it might run over, have been warned it can be a late one. But we will see’

Now. I read that as I’m not coming but don’t know how to say I’m not.

One friend says it’s completely fine, it’s unavoidable work stuff and he’s just saying it might go on late.

Other friend says he’s obviously not interested and to cut my losses.

So I don’t know :( I saw him for lunch on Tuesday and it was all fine, and we spoke on the phone last night and have sent texts throughout the day. But I feel like telling him to just leave it. But I don’t know :(

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