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Ex-h demanding to know about bf

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AstrantiaMallow · 31/10/2017 13:33

My abusive ex has just found out I have a boyfriend and is demanding to meet me to discuss the DCs. He’s objecting to the fact I didn’t tell him, that my bf now spends time with them, wants to know how long it’s been going on, who my bf is, how often he stays, implies I must have cheated on him, that my bf must be a bad influence on DCs. He says I have questions to answer and that if I don’t he will take me to court over contact. He’s now sent me a third email, more pressing - I tried to ignore the first two.

I’m pregnant (he doesn’t know) and he never sees them. He didn’t see them in the summer as he was too busy, then kicked up a fuss when he suddenly requested a date in July for a few weeks later which coincided with a booked trip away with the DCs so he was told it wasn’t possible. His solicitor sent me a letter then about contact but as exh also made threats toward me it died down and I heard nothing more. He lives abroad, visits the country often but doesn’t see them, pays nothing for them. He remarried last year which was the last time they went to visit him. That marriage has now fallen apart. I could go on and on.

I’m really nervous what he could do. Is it best I send an email back to him explaining, so it’s all out in the open, or should I ignore him? He doesn’t know I’m pregnant and that before the baby is born we will be moving with my boyfriend.

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Aperolspritzer123 · 31/10/2017 13:55

OP I really don't see what the fuck it has to do with him? I would just ignore it to be honest - what can he do anyway? If he takes you to court then a. It will cost him a fortune and b. Surely he will have to start paying for his own dc and commit to contact with them.
If it was me I would probably reply saying what I have just said above but then I don't know the guy or you so maybe you would prefer not to. He sounds like a complete arsehole btw.

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Santawontbelong · 31/10/2017 13:58

Keep a diary of all contact and abuse - then block all ways of contact. You have better things to do with your time now. Just because his life had gone to pot ...

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hellsbellsmelons · 31/10/2017 14:00

if I don’t he will take me to court over contact
Your response to his last email..

OK - see you in court.

Job done.
Do not rise to telling him anything.
He doesn't even reside in this country.
He would be laughed out of court.
Fuck him. If he wants to spend the money then let him.
He won't though!
5 words and then ignore ignore ignore!

Congrats on your relationship and your pregnancy.

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WickedLazy · 31/10/2017 14:01

Tell him he can't drop in and out of his kids lives like this, it's not fair on them. Just because he met someone new and forgot about them, doesn't mean you'll do the same, and If he saw them more than once a year, you or the dc would have mentioned it in passing before now.

Based on this though "He remarried last year which was the last time they went to visit him", I'd also be tempted to tell him to fuck off and block his number.

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juwayriyyah31 · 31/10/2017 14:01

He can't take the fact your moving on and just want to show control still. You don't need to bother with him at all.men like that are total wimps. My ex bf was emotional abuser and after I got married he tried to blackmail me but then my husband stepped in and said he will sort him out, after he heard that he disappeared ever since. Please be strong and don't let him get to you,I've been through it x

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XJerseyGirlX · 31/10/2017 14:04

Just keep ignoring him, none of his business
he wants a response, don't give him one

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BitOutOfPractice · 31/10/2017 14:11

I usually say “the best answer is no answer” but I think in this case I’d go for “ok. See you on court”.

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MycatsaPirate · 31/10/2017 14:29

Tell him to fuck off.

My ex was like this.

He was in Court on DV charges and making threats of violence towards me and his solicitor was questioning me. My ex had been stalking me online and he was trying to imply I was some sort of slapper as I had a new boyfriend. Absolutely fuck all to do with the case and the Judge ripped him a new one.

When I met and moved in with my fiancé he got really arsy, demanding all sorts of information, from finances to details of my DP's ex wife. He was told to just fuck off and leave me alone.

It was nothing to do with him and as long as my dc are safe, it's not his business.

Funnily enough he wasn't seeing dc or paying either.

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greenberet · 31/10/2017 14:46

These men where do they get their entitlement from - my x just the same but not so obviously abusive.

I think I would acknowledge email not answer any of hi s questions and just confirm the dcs are fine and leave it at that - the rest of it is none of his business but I know full well how these men can get under your skin and he's not even in the same country - they are seriously deluded -a symptom of borderline personality disorder amongst the aggressive abusive behaviour.

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gillybeanz · 31/10/2017 14:53

If he hasn't threatened court I'd just ignore.
He's worrying that he is losing all control now you have a bf.

If he does threaten court, respond that he can have 50% PR when he lives near them, contributes financially and emotionally to their upbringing and takes on the role as Father.
You won't see him for dust.

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cakecakecheese · 31/10/2017 14:54

Can you get a solicitor or at least a friend who is good at this sort of thing to respond to him on your behalf saying something like his personal questions and defamatory statements are harassment and any necessary contact pertaining to such things as the maintenance payments toward his children should be handled through the courts. Just thinking if it's pointed out that he'll have to pay for his kids he might pipe down.

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HebeJeeby · 31/10/2017 16:20

“Ok - see you in court”

Definitely say this, he hasn’t got a leg to stand in. Then ignore.

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TheNaze73 · 31/10/2017 16:28

Ex’s who are like this are clinging on to the last bit of power they have. Laughter would be your best tonic here.

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FizzyGreenWater · 31/10/2017 16:30

I would reply:

Hi X. Yes, I think court is great idea. It would be wonderful to finally sort out maintenance as well as a clear contact schedule so I will look forward to hearing from your soliticor. I'm afraid I don't understand your reasoning for needing to know any details of my private life, especially as you have actually remarried yourself, so again perhaps it would be better for you to explain it all in detail to a judge. Regards, Astrantia.

Bluff firmly called and you will not hear from him again!

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Theresnonamesleft · 31/10/2017 16:36

Fizzy reply is perfect.
Call his bluff.
He’s acting like an arse because he’s a bully and expects you to tow the line.

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crimsonlake · 31/10/2017 16:40

Do not respond and in future do not even open his emails. Still trying to control you, take back the control and ignore. Drives control freaks mad.

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AstrantiaMallow · 01/11/2017 09:06

Thanks for your views. I have these cyclical doubts that maybe if I explain it’ll be easier. Whatever I say won’t be good enough anyway.

Mycats Sorry you’ve had this or worse. I haven’t had public media stalking as not really on it but he did pay someone to check on me after we moved out of the family home. That man wasn’t very bright and got arrested.
The implication is def I’m sleeping around and now that my bf must be the worse possible person to have near the DCs. . Until now he’s kept asking about men saying there must be someone. We don’t talk (I don’t answer) so it’s limited but he regularly tries.

He thought he owned me. He’s been convinced from the start that I didn’t instigate divorce by myself. He’s got money and has spent stupid amounts on many things that led nowhere. His mother ‘lost’ the DCs passports last time after they went to visit him. Contact brings stress and problems. The DCs are doing well but at the beginning sporadic contact was awful. I feel we’ve moved on from that and they’re much happier but any sign of him showing interest scares me because it’s not genuinely about them.

I’ve been doing grey rock so if I suddenly went ‘see you in court’ he may well do it, although actually I’m not stopping him seeing them, he just never asks. It’s cost and huge stress though ...

He’s quite dodgy really so deep down I’m more worried about him trying to bump into me or make a direct approach or trying to create trouble for boyfriend. Maybe it’s just I haven’t dealt with my demons of past things that he did. With pregnancy it’s also he’d started bullying me to get pregnant again and I always said I didn’t want a third. He’s not going to take well at all this is now happening with someone else.

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MycatsaPirate · 01/11/2017 12:12

If all this is in written form, such as emails, Id consider getting a non mol order.

I got one, it cost me £1,500 and it was worth every single penny. It gave me and the kids (they were both named on it and he was banned from going near their schools as well as my house) a year of peace and although he tried to use his dad to pass on messages, a visit from the police stopped that.

Strangely, since the non mol expired, I have had no contact from him. My girls didn't need the grief he was giving them on the few occasions he was bothering to see them and I feel so much happier not having him ringing me making demands and threats.

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hellsbellsmelons · 01/11/2017 15:12

Did you do the Freedom Programme when you split with him?
If not then get onto Womens Aid and enrol.
It will really help you understand and deal with him.

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Hermonie2016 · 01/11/2017 15:19

I assume you are divorced? How long ago?
What age are the children?

I would log everything and keep records, only responding to his requests to see the children and nothing about your life.

The children have a right to see their father so their ages are relevant.

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AstrantiaMallow · 01/11/2017 18:37

Yes, we are officially divorced, split three years ago nearly. I had a non-mol but that didn’t involve the DCs, he’s moved away now and it’s expired anyway. He is allowed to see the children. He never hurt them. It’s me. One is ten, the other under 10.
I can see what he’s doing. I’m just very anxious about it. More so now I’m pregnant maybe. It’s taken a lot of work to get there to something fairly peaceful and stable for the DCs.

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SandyY2K · 01/11/2017 18:53

I'd ignore him.
He hasn't asked a specific question about the DC that requires a response. Ignore him.

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SandyY2K · 01/11/2017 19:00

I'm assuming there was nothing in your divorce that stated you have to inform your Ex about new partners?

Does he know your address? Or telephone number?
Was he violent? Do you think he would physically harm your boyfriend?

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Sweetbell · 01/11/2017 19:08

Sending strength OP sounds stressful but do remember you are perfectly entitled to move on with your life.

Your ex has nothing to back up his accusations you know this deep down.
You know who exactly your current partner is and what sort of if any influence on your DC, which I imagine is a settled peaceful life with a new sibling on way.
No response is probably best

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FizzyGreenWater · 01/11/2017 19:15

Ok I can understand with your updates why you wouldn't necessarily want to call this bluff. Him having money, for example, does make it easier for him to use a court to harass you.

However. I really think there is very very little he can actually do here - or really wants to. Leave contact out of it for a moment. What he really hates is losing control. He lost that ages ago of course, but this new piece of information showing that yes you HAVE moved on has riled him up again. So he's trying to flex his muscles.

However- all he can do is try and intimidate you. He cannot DO anything. You can ignore the email. With a previous non-mol too, he's on totally shaky ground by even contacting you like this. He knows it, too, which is why this is all he's done - it's as far as he dares push it. He won't try and see you or come to the house. He's just trying, very hard, to scare you - because that's all he has.

So first thing to say is - you could ignore this, and all would very likely be fine and he would get bored. I can see however that you need to shut the door on it as it is getting to you. So here you could respond in a way which lets him know, very firmly, that if he starts up his harrassment again you will nail him:

Hi X. I'm afraid I don't understand your reasoning for needing to know any details of my private life, especially as you have actually remarried yourself. If you wish to put your arguments to a judge, I will be happy to provide all details of your previous harrassment of me as required should your solicitor contact me. Please do not contact me again directly on this matter as it is inappropriate and threatening. Regards, Astrantia.

Now as regards the children and contact. The thing that jumps out at me is that, despite having the money, one thing he's chosen not to do is to use the courts to harrass you for contact. This is the typical way in which abusive men pursue their exes when all else fails - because it's the one area in which they have the 'right' to continue to force dialogue - he has the right to see his children. Yet he hasn't. You've hardly seen him.

So - bottom line is, he doesn't want to see the children. He doesn't want the bother or the expense, and he doesn't have family behind him pushing him to do so either. Oh he threatens it, like now, when he's got nothing else to pull out of the bag - but he doesn't actually want to. So, while I understand you not wanting to poke the beast, don't forget that right now he has the life he wants and it doesn't include his kids. So while I understand you wanting to stay quiet on contact issues, I think you should take heart from this and know that these are almost certainly empty threats.

If I were you, I would respond to the demands regarding your private life as above, don't mention the children, and that in itself MIGHT get him to back off as he knows full well there is NO WAY he can pull a court case up to force you to let him grill you about your partners. Put a history of harrassment and a non-mol on top and he wouldn't dare go near a solicitor for that. So you tackle his demands head on and let him know that you will NOT be harrassed.

If he then drags it around to the children, you can blandly reply that he has of course every right to go back to court and he will be pleased to know that you've kept records of all contact broken etc. so fine.

But I don't think he will go there because more contact is clearly not what he wants- he wants to use it as a means of forcing you to cow to him. So let him know first that that isn't going to happen, and I bet his 'interest' in going to court for contact wanes.

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