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It's over. Telling the children

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OnwardsNewLifeAhead · 25/07/2017 20:53

I finally told H I want to start divorce proceedings. There's a very long (and tedious) backstory, but in a nutshell, we haven't had anything even approaching a functioning relationship for many years, and have only been together due to circumstances (children - all 3 have ASD; financial - house renovations dragging on; he's only here because it suits him - he doesn't want another divorce; etc). Enough is enough, its having an impact on the children, and I finally told him we need to start the inevitable.

He is professing shock and dismay (despite a very clear conversation between us last year, where we agreed we needed to divorce, but also needed to wait until our then un-sellable house was in a state fit to be sold), and apparently doesn't agree we should divorce. After a few days of acting hurt, he has now accepted it, but still doesn't agree it is necessary.

He now doesn't want to tell the children, for an unspecified time. Initially, we couldn't, as it was 2 days before our youngest' birthday. It's now 2 weeks until our eldest's birthday... and he hasn't come up with a time frame for telling them. The youngest, I agreed - he is just 5, and it would have overshadowed his birthday. Now, I'm all for telling them. He doesn't want to - would make it too real, I guess - but if we keep dragging it out, eyes never going to be a right time.

I won't get him to agree to telling them, because he doesn't really want this to happen anyway. But I don't want to forge ahead and tell them on my own.

God, I hate this. He is a total emotional manipulator at the best of times, and will make this as difficult as possible. I want to lessen the impact on the children as much as possible.

Is there a middle ground at all?

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Boredboredboredboredbored · 25/07/2017 22:20

What's the plan? Is he moving out? We told our 2 dc last summer aged 12 & 13 like you we had a 13th birthday a trip abroad and youngest starting senior school to get out of the way first. We then found stbxh a flat to rent nearby before we told them. We did if this way so we could tell them where he would be. They have been far far better than I could have hoped. We have remained amicable though and that's been the key. Good luck it's a hard time x

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OnwardsNewLifeAhead · 25/07/2017 23:10

That's just it, there is no plan currently. I think that's why he wants to delay telling them, so there doesn't have to be a plan, and it can all rumble on indefinitely.

If we wait until after our eldest's' birthday, then it's only a couple of weeks until the new school year - another reason to stall, while younger two settle in etc (ASD means they take a while to settle). Then of course, after half term, it's the run down to Christmas. And middle dc will be taking secondary entrance exams. Plus her birthday.

There's just never going to be a 'right' time - how can there be? It's something that will change the dc's lives forever.

I do think they will all be ok (eventually). Eldest and middle will be fine about it, youngest will take it hardest. But ultimately, it will be for the better for all of us, and so that will count in the long run.

I just don't know how to get him to agree to tell the dc. Without that, everything stalls.

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MyheartbelongstoG · 25/07/2017 23:56

Tell them on your own?

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OnwardsNewLifeAhead · 26/07/2017 06:51

I may have to. It's not what I want to do, because I'd rather this was handled together, but it may come to that.

It's not a great indicator of future ability to work together if we can't work this bit out, is it? I suspect he is going to force me to be the 'bad guy'. The one who drives it all along because he is so shocked, hurt and unwilling. Then he can rest comfortably in his place as the victim in all this, with me being the one who broke up the happy home etc. Except that's all bollocks, but why let the truth get in the way of anything?

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LellyMcKelly · 26/07/2017 06:56

They'll him you are going to be telling him on this date/time and you'd appreciate it if he was there, but will do it regardless. We both told ours and they were amazing. Far better than I expected them to be. How you do it is really important.

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PetalHead · 26/07/2017 08:37

I relate a LOT to your last post - my ex is very like this.

I had to push and push to get him to buckle down to telling the kids with me - he'd have happily simply done nothing forever to avoid any effort or discomfort. It was hard avoiding birthdays and special events too.

I won't lie, it was upsetting and they cried. But they did recover and as a PP said, being able to tell them a clear plan helped a lot. Your DC may have friends who have been though it and assume it will be the same experience - it's good to be able to spell out the practicalities.

It sounds very much as if you are doing the right thing for yourself and your DC - hold onto that because of course at times they will find the upheaval very difficult, but as the adult you can think longer-term.

I know how hard it is to push to this point. Flowers Brew for you.

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WotcherHarry · 26/07/2017 08:46

OP I am in a really similar position right now. I'm having to push along and my ex is also very manipulative. It's incredibly stressful but I keep reminding myself that this is the right thing to do for myself and the children. He is good at avoiding conversations or ways of making plans. I am going to push some plans tonight...

Like yourself, I had hopes of being amicable and working together - though yesterday I suddenly realised that he has been a selfish arse for the last ten years, so why would it be any different now?

Good luck!

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Hermonie2016 · 26/07/2017 09:35

Do you suspect ASD in your H? Just wonder if this is a factor.

What is likely to happen with a separation? If selling the house why not get that started and start divorce proceedimg, see a solicitor.

I would just echo what pp said.If your H had been selfish and manipulative then expect greater levels of this in the divorce.

I had tried to be amicable but stbxh ramped up hostility from the start.It still takes me by surprise but I'm divorcing him because he's not a good or kind person so why do I expect better behaviour??

Just be cautious, get your ducks lined up and then press ahead with telling the children.

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CrazyHairSister · 26/07/2017 10:19

I also have children with ASD so before we told them I wanted everything lined up so we could give them concrete plans about who would live where etc.

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OnwardsNewLifeAhead · 27/07/2017 21:08

No idea re: ASD in H. Possibly, but then he is high functioning enough with it to hold down a successful high level career, so can obviously manage different social settings well enough (client/corporate entertainment being a large part of his job).

Yes, you are probably lay right re: higher levels of selfishness and manipulation during divorce. I would do well to remember this.

Ducks are lined up, and I've seen a solicitor. Initial letter has been sent, but he has yet to mention this to me - whether more denial, or playing games, only time will tell.

Concrete plans would be good. Ideally I'd like to give the dc solid info when we tell them, which I expect is what H is playing on. He knows this is what I want, so the longer he can stall the better, from his perspective.

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