My feed
Premium

Please
or
to access all these features

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Relationships

Feel guilty, not sure what to do

13 replies

DorothyL · 26/11/2015 23:26

My brother is an arse and a bully who's shown since leaving his wife and three kids the very worst sides of his character. We've had a few spats, last night he was trying to boss me into supplying him with financial information that he could use against my SIL. I dug my heels in and said no - I knew he could get the information elsewhere so I just wanted to wind him up. I totally succeeded, he is fuming and has now also fallen out with my mum over this... I feel
guilty because my mum is now upset, not sure what to do!

OP posts:
Report
tribpot · 26/11/2015 23:30

Why do you have to do anything? Your mum has made her own choices and refusing to supply him with financial information to use against your SIL was the right thing to do. I think it's very wrong to say you refused because you wanted to wind him up (I assume that's actually what he said to you). You refused because you don't want to participate in his bullying of his wife and children. Let him do his own dirty work, he sounds despicable.

Report
timelytess · 26/11/2015 23:30

Keep calm and carry on? That would seem like the best plan.

Report
goddessofsmallthings · 27/11/2015 02:49

You can tell your "arse and bully" of a brother that this isn't about taking sides with your SIL as you're looking out for your dns, his dc, who'll suffer if their dm goes short of money.

If he's been an arse and bully to your SIL it's to be hoped that she'll be able to take him every for penny he's got as hitting him where it hurts most, i.e. in his wallet, might encourage him to have a personality transplant before he victimises another woman..

Report
DorothyL · 27/11/2015 05:21

Thank you, I feel better now! It's just so sad that people can be so horrible...

OP posts:
Report
DorothyL · 27/11/2015 06:48

He is going to receive a substantial amount of money soon, purely on the basis of my mum's generosity, but he still feed hard done by...

OP posts:
Report
JoyceDivision · 27/11/2015 07:03

How does your mum feel about his behaviour?

If it's her money and she's making a gift of it to your brother, in her shoes, I would be tempted to gift some to your brother... and some to your SIL for the care of his children / her grandchildren.

Hope you tip your SILS re his behaviouras he sounds unpleasant!

Report
tribpot · 27/11/2015 07:25

It sounds like he and your mother may have a problem if she wants that money to go solely to him whilst he's still in the process of divorcing. If she waits until the financial settlement is done, and deprives her grandchildren of the money - well, shame on her, frankly.

However, one thing this isn't is your problem. Stay well out of it. The fact that he sees himself as a perpetual victim makes me think he's been pandered to in the past, instead of told to pull his socks up and stop being a dick. Now is the time.

Report
DorothyL · 27/11/2015 07:47

I agree tribpot but it was him who contacted me to ask for this information - he'd told me before to kee out of it which I did but when he thought I could supply an advantage to him he suddenly wanted me to act...

OP posts:
Report
tribpot · 27/11/2015 09:49

Just because he contacted you doesn't negate your own free will. You have demonstrated to him that you will choose not to get involved. Do you generally do what he tells you to?

Report
DorothyL · 27/11/2015 10:33

Only to keep the peace for my mum's sake!

OP posts:
Report
tribpot · 27/11/2015 10:55

No doubt in the past he's exploiting that appeaser tendency. Fortunately it sounds as if he's asked/ordered you to do something which has pushed the boundary of what you'll do to keep the peace too far. You shouldn't be feeling guilty so much as angry and used. Stand your ground - could you really live with yourself if you'd colluded with him? What your mum does is her choice.

Report
DorothyL · 27/11/2015 23:28

Apparently I'm a schemer and a liar and he's cutting all ties with me

OP posts:
Report
tribpot · 27/11/2015 23:41

Sounds fine to me. Don't rise to it. He will attempt to manipulate you via your mother, she will implore you to go along with his scheme and then if you're very lucky you can be 'forgiven'. I would start having a look at some of the toxic family threads, Stately Homes etc. This is showing some classic symptoms.

Report
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.