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He won't make the effort to see me(56 Posts)
I have been seeing a guy for about 2 months.
He is the first man I have dated since the break up with my DD's father 2 years ago.
Due to my childcare situation (i.e. going out means advance planning for childcare etc) and his job (he works long hours, 6 days a week) we have averaged meeting up about twice a week, once during the weekday and then during the weekend).
However, I have now not seen him at all for 2 weeks. He actually had a week off work last week and I had assumed that we would meet up at some point during that time. I know he went away to visit family for a few days but from the thursday to sunday he was back in our hometown. It was me who was texting him etc. I found this all a bit disappointing and assumed that this meant that maybe he was not so keen on me anymore. So I rang him up on Monday to say "hey, whats going on? Are we still doing this or shall we call it quits". He said that he was really shocked and sad that I felt this way. We ended up talking for 2 hours - he said that he was still interested in me, that he just hadn't thought about how not really contacting me or wanting to hook up would look from my point of view, that he really liked me, said that he was tired, very busy etc. He said that he is always going to be a disappointment and that he has been single for such a long time that he is used to putting himself first.
Anyway, roll over to this weekend - we had planned to meet up today. He told me this afternoon after a lot of faffing about that he was feeling like a "lazy bastard" and didn't want to meet up today. He said this is what he meant when he told me on Monday that he was selfish.
I ended up sending a ranty text to my friend stating how piss poor I found all of this but accidentally sent it to him instead so he ended up getting the uncut version of what I felt. He sent a text back saying that I had a right to be annoyed. It feels all a bit awkward though.
I do like him, we seem to get on very well when we are together and have lots in common etc. I do know that he is very busy and that I'm sure he is very tired. I just feel quite disappointed that he didn't want to make the effort with me today or during his week off.
I think I should probably end it. I think the aim of this post was really just to vent.
I haven't read the replies but it sounds like a man I went out with once. He was always so busy. We'd go through this charade where I'd suggest Friday, no basket ball, Thursday, no drama, Wednesday no he had the kids, Tuesday no I'm going out myself on tuesday!! monday? no he had to visit his mother.... so then he'd stare at me and wait for me to say 'ok i'll cancel my friends' but because I had the mumsnet wisdom under my belt I never did that. He was a nice man, but seriously, it was on the road to nowhere. The signs were clear. Listen to what men tell you with their actions. Nice man, we still amicably text chit chat but we don't meet up.
Well done OP. That end speech he made was incredibly unpleasant, manipulative, and passive aggressive though. He wasn't sorry for making you unhappy, he was "sad" because you didn't like him any more and he wanted to be seen as the good guy? Diddums!
I think he was trying to "goad" you into going "well actually, I don't need to get any of my needs met, sorry for criticising you, I'll just wait round and chase after you to give you the ego boost". Well out of it!
He can't see you after 2 weeks absence cos he's lazy translates to, he's not interested.
He probably wants to keep you on standby for the odd shag, look for someone who is more deserving of you, all of you.
He is not into you enough, maybe it is not within him to ever be into anyone enough. Who knows, but bottom line if he is like this now, it will only get more unbalanced with him always putting himself first.
Good decision, and good timing OP. You weren't getting much out of it, were you?I can see what he was getting out of it, in that he had a woman on tap when it suited him, the security provided by that but not much of the effort.
Basically, he's got dumped because he was a crap boyfriend. I don't think many women would find his behaviour very appealing. If he likes you enough to miss you, he will do something about it.
That's an interesting blog post brokenhearted. However I think the moral of the story is 'back off and trust to serendipity' rather than 'peruse a relationship that makes you actively unhappy'.
Whoops missed your update. Well done. Next.
Deeds not words. He's demonstrating that he's not interested, doesn't matter a jot if he claims differently.
The right call I think. If he was that interested and in to you then he'd have made more of an effort.
I went out with someone like that, and they soon grind you down and make you feel worthless.
You never know you, he may change his mind and miss you but I wouldn't hold your breath.
It's done now - well done OP.
Chalk it down to experience, consider yourself a stronger person. Big smile, move on, happy in the knowledge that you've learnt a good lesson about what a man who really likes you and wants to be with you doesn't act like
He doesn't act like this guy. He acts as though he wants to see you, wants to be with you more than his friends, and can't wait until he's with you again.
File it under "Shit relationships to avoid". God knows, my file is full to bursting, but they're all little lessons in life's rich tapestry!!
He must feel he's got the pick of sweeties in a sweet shop to be so lazy about making any effort. Not what you're after OP so give him up. I hope your text to your friend he received by mistake was very candid about his manners .
he sounds awfully manipulative OP. that end speech was SO to push your buttons, make out it's all in your head, you need commitment, your problem etc and not budging an inch himself but making sure you know the door is open IF you bow to the idea that you're just too needy and craving commitment and are willing to accept this dalliance entirely on his terms.
please stay clear.
Well said on all counts, OneMoreChap.
It's true that lots of people might not be able to manage time for romance and I would have sniffed at the OP for being a bit high maintenance if the guy was genuinely too busy or tired to see her for a mere fortnight; or at least I would have said he is clearly not at the point in life when he can spare time to have a relationship so it is best to let him go. However, this isn't really the case, as he actually did have time to meet but said he was too lazy to do so. Chalk one up to him for honesty I suppose, but tact? Consideration? Thoughtfulness? Not so much.
You have so done the right thing.
If he was interested he would chase you!
Men like to chase women anyway. Its the way they are made. They are achievers and strive to achieve things... If he is interested he will persue
The Rules is brilliant and even though some people think it's game playing
I've just timeslipped back into the 50s.
TBH, the guy sounds a bit selfish and looks like he might want different things, so you are probably right to end it.
Who is so busy/ tired from work they can't meet up for a bloody coffee in over 2 weeks?!?!
Lots of professionals? I work frequently for weeks at a time when I can barely fit in time for sleep, hygiene and basic exercise. When I was working on major contract bids in another life, it was often a choice between gym/breakfast. Mate's wife was a contract lawyer and she'd often pull 16-18 hour days when younger.
The guy didn't want the same sort of thing the OP did; enjoy what you have and move on, and hopefully the next person will be a bit more laid back and less selfish.
I think you've done the right thing.
You haven't actually said how you ended up together. Did you meet through OD or IRL? Was it stated at the beginning that either one of you was looking for a relationship or did you just experience the chemistry and agree to meet again?
It may be the case that he never wanted a relationship, in which case he's being honest with you and it's better to find out now.
However, if he said, or strongly implied, that he was looking for a relationship, he has been completely disingenuous with his comments about "not being able to give you the commitment you crave". That actually sounds highly manipulative - as in "you're being unreasonable asking to be treated as though I like spending time with you. You should be grateful I condescend to see you at all. But I'll forgive you as long as you concede I'm right and agree to see my on my terms with no complaints and no demands on me."
Player or honest guy? Who knows. You do more than us. Either way, he's not available to build a relationship with so you're really better off without him.
Hope you feel better about it soon.
You're not sure if it was right decision?
How could it continue when he can't even be bothered to meet you for coffee?
Save your energy for someone who wants to be with you.
I went out with someone ten years ago who behaved just like this. Would call his friends when he was around and not me; always felt like I was the one who wanted to see him, never the other way around. He eventually ended it after six months (can't believe I hung around that long, but he was my first boyfriend!).
Two years later (we had remained friends), he started to see me a lot and always calling me to go out and meet up and spending time at my house. When we were together, I only saw him once a week, but at this point it was becoming every day. He made ALL the effort. I never called him. A few months later, he asked me to try again, and seven years on, we're still together. It's so different this time. I never doubt his feelings and we make equal effort. The first time around, I assumed he was just lazy, but in reality, at that point in his life, he just wasn't interested.
I have PMd you, your experience mirrors mine!
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