This will be the least interesting thread opener in the history of mumsnet to anyone who hasn't seen my earlier threads, for which I apologise. I've managed to fall off the end of another one though, so here I am. For the tiny minority of you who actually care and know what TOTGA is, I promise that if and when there is anything to report, it will be posted here first.
In the meantime, anyone want to start a general stitch and bitch to while away the time?
Well, we went back to the place it all began. The hotel we worked at together 10 years ago. We had the most amazing dinner and laughed and talked and talked... it was amazing. Half way through the dinner he admitted that he hadn't known whether it was meeting a friend or a date, but it felt like a date and maybe it should be. So we talked about that a bit, and the fact that it's terrible timing really. Then we kissed, and that's where it got interesting and confusing...
I now know what 10 years of pent up desire feels like (good) and what a bottle of wine and a G&T does to that situation (bad - inhibitions and reasonable caution out of the window). He came home with me and the inevitable happened (good) then the sobriety kicked in (bad). He wanted to stay (good) but neither of us could sleep, so at half 2 he left (bad). I said that I would wait to hear from him, as his life is much more complicated than mine right now (good) but now I'm waiting... (bad).
I'm not really sure if this is going anywhere at all, or whether it was just the culmination of a highly charged and somewhat inevitable emotional situation. I am kicking myself because I basically wasn't entirely prepared and had to call an abrupt end to events due to a sudden realisation along the lines of "fuck - there could be a baby if we don't calm the eff down, immediately. STOP". Feel a bit like we should have been more grown up about it all, but at the same time, its TOTGA. Surely the 10 years of friendship should help us ride this one out (pardon the pun).
I am adamant I will not call/contact him for at least a few days. For 5 minutes out of every 10 at least! The other 5 minutes I'm wishing I could text/call right now and just ask if he's ok, are we ok? Playing it cool seems a bit pointless at this stage. But maybe that's exactly what I need to do.
Not sure if anything is clearer or whether we have hit a new level of complex.
Hugs xxxx You are such good friends I'm not sure I would do the whole play it cool thing. Just a quick, hope you are OK, you know where I am text wouldn't hurt in my opinion but I am a softy lol. Don't be too quick to brush over where you are emotionally right now either though. It's a big (fun, I hope) step for you both. Xx
I think a text along the lines of you enjoyed the evening and hope to see him again, but understand that his situation is complicated. At least that would clear the way for you both to maintain contact as friends (for now?) or more if he is ready for that. I think playing it too cool could be interpreted as regret by him, if he is not thinking straight about things just at the moment.
Choco, drink and history aside, when the two of you were together in a non platonic way, did it feel comfortable and "right"?
Suspect you're both going to be wary and cautious with each other now as you've crossed the bedroom line and it's new territory but keep the spark and affection with him, don't withdraw but no need to get too heavy and ask him to start picking curtains with you.
Good first text. If he's feeling confused, that's normal, you're feeling it too by the sounds of it but don't withdraw or read too much into his acts or ommissions. Keep things positive and light while you both process what's going on. You're further ahead than him post marriage breakdown. If he's wavering don't take it to heart. I wavered with my friend now husband and thankfully for the both of us he had the conviction to be there for me no matter what, even after I told him I just wanted us to be friends.
You've got the kind of relationship where you can be straight with each other eg is this a date type discussion.
Life's complicated for both of you at the moment and whatever will be will be but in the meantime, you can still aim to be ports for each other while you deal with all the challenges in your life and agree that you're not looking to soul search and get all the answers straight away but keep on being there for each other in a fun, positive way and just see how things unfold without expectation and pressure to immediately blend on basis of history.
You have to start afresh with each other, your relationship has shifted and no matter what, will not be the same again.
It might end up being completely brilliant, a disaster or something a bit grey and an anti climax. Too early to tell and whatever the outcome, it shouldn't be something you regret, you both had to cross the line, it was brewing.
And like any good soap, there has to be a cliffhanger. So we're all waiting with you to find out how Totty replies to your text!
Woohoo!! I agree, don't play it too cool, as you don't want to give the impression that it wasn't important to you, equally don't give him a key to the front door and a drawer Dont overthink it, just enjoy it, it's so exciting, well done you, about time something great happened.
he got back to me <breathes again> Unsurprisingly he's confused and can't get his head quite around what happened. He's also very tired (had about 3 hours sleep in the end). I have replied letting him know that as far as I'm converned, I'm still his same friend, and whatever else is going on he can rely on that. We didn't sign a contract or start a relationship last night. In a decade long friendship there have been many beautiful moments... don't overthink it. And that I would take him out for a day to the beach (no booze this time) when he was next free, as a thank you for the lovely dinner. Feeling much better about it all now!
haha sorry!! the one that got away the shoulda-woulda-coulda guy I nearly dated in my twenties but never did. The one I've never really stopped wishing I could be more than just good friends with... that guy
Of course, absolutely. Hearing what you're going through with Totga takes me back, mine was a different situation but there are parallels. Never had a PM before, am a little excited. Will I know when it comes through?! Out for rest of day but drop me a message whenever you like.
no further word from the man. I am quietly ok with that. I have put the ball back in his court and said he can let me know when he wants to hang out, so for the next day or two I'll just let it lie. Will probaby call over the weekend just to chat...