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Why is Lillian allowing this to happen?

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PseudoBadger Wed 24-Apr-13 12:47:07

FFS Lil, he's just a bit on the side. If he pisses you off just bin him. Don't start sounding so downtrodden.

Songbird Wed 24-Apr-13 13:24:54

Worrying isn't it? All his whining about Matt when it was him pushing the affair. 'I don't mind just being a bit on the side' sort of thing. It's all going to come crashing down around her isn't it? Silly bint. And where is Matt???

JollyGolightly Wed 24-Apr-13 13:34:28

I don't understand it. Lillian used to be a toughie and a good laugh, the aunty you'd want to sit beside at a family do. He's only just started with the EA and she's already lost all her oomph.

PseudoBadger Wed 24-Apr-13 13:46:23

It's as if the SWs wanted to 'do' EA or some kind of domestic abuse but couldn't find a married couple that it would work in. So they've shoehorned it in with an affair?

heronsfly Wed 24-Apr-13 14:35:56

I found this episode rather cringeworthy, would have rather heard more about Pipsqueak the lamb killer

HomelessAngua Wed 24-Apr-13 16:20:19

Nonono - not more Pip - please!

ppeatfruit Fri 26-Apr-13 16:00:05

Yes the SWs have changed her character she doesn't let Matt treat her like that. Oh hang on I just remembered she turned a blind eye to Matt and Annabel's near shag! Now they've got a flat "together" Paul is using it as a lever to hang on to her I knew that would happen.

gwenniebee Tue 30-Apr-13 19:11:59

Ooooooohhhhhhh she's about to get shopped! :D

orangina Wed 01-May-13 12:57:37

Oh bloody hell, just listened to last night's episode (Tuesday).... why why WHY did she go for such a stupid lie to Matt?

Her days are numbered, I tell you....... shock

lljkk Wed 01-May-13 14:11:17

Indeed, Orangina, I can't fathom that either. Panic?
I thought cheaters spent longer concocting their lies.
I still resent the SWs for making me feel sorry for Matt. angry
Remember he took up with Lilian when he was cheating on his wife, though.
So how will he take this revelation?

orangina Wed 01-May-13 14:52:52

Oh I don't know I would go as far as feeling sorry for Matt though.... grin. Lillian used to be fab and on top of everything, but someone has taken away her mojo recently, which is really annoying!

TallGiraffe Wed 01-May-13 15:03:40

She had all afternoon to come up with a better lie!

heronsfly Wed 01-May-13 16:41:00

Matt seems to be rather uninterested in Lillians tall stories about where she has and hasn't been lately. I think either he knows and is waiting to see how far she will go with the lies and deceit, or he is having his own affair and is planning on leaving Lillian.grin

PigletJohn Wed 01-May-13 17:56:31

Matt knows all about it, he had her followed by a private investigator (remember the woman at the station?) and is biding his time while on his best behaviour.

lljkk Wed 01-May-13 20:17:32

SWs were completely telegraphing what with Matt speculating about the Dog Fighters, why did they choose Brian's barn of all places and they must have an inside connection, etc. Reminding us that Matt is canny & shrewd (about time for that side of him to re-emerge).

Now if only Lilian could find her absent backbone, too.

kohl Wed 01-May-13 20:25:33

I've been dipping in and out recently - cannot bear bloody pip's spoilt whining or her crazed controlling folks -she needs to MOVE OUT LIKE EVERY OTHER 18 YEAR OLD.
Anyway. What is going on with Paul and his ex wife?

PrincessFiorimonde Wed 01-May-13 21:50:47

Yes, she's been rumbled (I also thought that Woman At Station was Matt's PI, but it was quite a while ago now), and it's all going to explode just when I'm going away for a fortnight. shock

<consults travel insurance re: grounds for cancelling holiday>

OTOH, am happy to escape from dreadful Pip and dismal Darrell.

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 01-May-13 22:27:26


Matt knows all about it, he had her followed by a private investigator (remember the woman at the station?) and is biding his time while on his best behaviour.

How did I miss this?
More details please.

PigletJohn Wed 01-May-13 22:41:39

could be a couple of months back. Shifty Paul and Fag-Ash Lil were waiting for a train after one of their un romantic shagfests assignations when a chatty older woman appeared, struck up a conversation, claimed she needed to call someone and borrowed a phone from one of them.

That will have put the call on the phone records in case they disputed her account later. No doubt she has photos and recordings as well. For all we know, she might even have been phoning Matt who will have understood the call.

NotALondoner Wed 01-May-13 22:54:05

It was the 'Brief Encounter' episode.

OliviaMMumsnet (MNHQ) Wed 01-May-13 23:33:39

Okay, well I remember that but why do we think PI?!?

GrendelsMum Thu 02-May-13 13:16:31

I don't think she was a PI - if she was, then why would he be getting Brenda to be snooping on his behalf and pretending he's concerned about Lil's health? <nice touch there from Matt, btw>

I've just thought - does Matt actually have any money / property of his own, now? He's living in L's house, with a business based in their house that he can't legally be director of, and can't set up his own new business if he leaves her. Which would be an additional motivation for his turning a blind eye all this time...

PseudoBadger Thu 02-May-13 13:21:28

I don't think Matt has had the first clue until the golf game. He was very surprised to hear Lill was at the races and clearly didn't buy her excuse - hence the snooping with Brenda. Why would he snoop if he's paying someone else? No way has there been a PI - there may be now though.
Matt or someone else is clearly going to hear that voicemail - why else would the SWs bother?

lljkk Thu 02-May-13 17:35:06

Which voicemail?
Matt's ex took a lot of his estate & he hid assets from her by hiding them (I remember a load of paintings?) in Lilian's house, giving Lillian cash to buy her house so L. nominally owns the house (?Dowger house?) but really Matt paid for it.

So if Matt really loves Lilian he'll try to win her back, probably by tracking down the lover & threatening him. If Matt thinks she stabbed him in the back and Matt doesn't care any more he'll plot how to get his money back and shaft her hard. I think he loves her, what's worse, so we're heading for Matt trying to kill Paul or summat.

TallGiraffe Thu 02-May-13 17:51:33

Paul left Lil a voicemail saying meet me at Thursday at this time and this location. Perfect for Matt to hear and go to meet instead.

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