Uppababy Cruz, Vista or Bugaboo cameleon

[ellabe]

Hi all,
Could really do with some advice from those of you who have these buggies please!!
We're debating between the Bugaboo Cameleon, the Uppababy Cruz and the Uppababy Vista.
I have friends who have all of these and they all seem to love their buggy but I have concerns over each of them!! We're looking for a buggy that is good in the city and would be ok on the underground / going into small shops/ cafes etc but that could also handle parks and commons/ woods! And one that folds up neatly and that is good for tall people as my husband is 6ft 5!!

Cruz- I love this but have heard that the front wheels get stuck often and so it can be awkward to push and perhaps not good in commons/ parks?

Vista- I love this even more but am worried it's too wide for small shops / tubes and public transport?

Cameleon- lots of people seem to have it and it seems the best option as it isn't too big but is also good off road... but the cot seems really low down to me and the shopping basket seems small and awkward to access!!

Would welcome your thoughts.. which would you go for given it will mainly be used on the streets in London but will go off pavements and i also want one that is ok to have in shops / cafes etc!!
Thanks so much!!!
E

[MrsMogginsMinge]

Easywalker Mosey! Nice and narrow (more important than overall size), biggish wheels (not a true off roader, but neither are the others in your list) and folds up quite compactly. Basket isn't massive but it has some useful hooks on the handles. Would recommend.

Although tbh if I still lived in London I'd get a Babyzen Yoyo for everyday use and then use a sling or a second hand off-road/jogging 3 wheeler thing for occasional challenging terrain.

[DearTeddyRobinson]

I have a Cruz and never had any problems with the wheels. It's ace for us as I'm 5'10" and DH is 6'2" so we need a nice high and adjustable handle! It's 4 years old, on DC2 and still going strong. It's a real workhorse with a nice big basket and I love it.
I'm in London btw, no problems on tube/buses, or if we go 'off road'

[ellabe]

Thank you both!!
I have no idea why but everyone in the shops is trying to put me off the Cruz and onto the Bugaboo Cameleon or buffalo!
Just don't like that the Cameleon is so low!! The buffalo could be better as its higher but heavier!!

[FloatingCamel]

If you're going to be on the bus a lot, like every day, they're all a bit big really. Next time you're on a bus watch what buggies come on and off and see who's having problems. Most people with the buggies you mention dump them by the time the child is 1 and use a smaller one.

[MrsMogginsMinge]

Probably because the Bugaboo is more expensive! Not sure about the Buffalo but with the Cam you have to take seat off to fold it - so impossible to do one handed by yourself on the bus. You will end up swapping to a Maclaren or Baby Jogger eventually. The BJ City Mini is really popular in cities for good reason (and if you get the GT one it will do rough terrain too) - relatively cheap too - the only downside for me was lack of rear facing once they outgrow the bassinet but in hindsight it wouldn't have mattered tbh.

[MrsMogginsMinge]

Out of those 3 I would go for the Cruz, I meant to add.

[ellabe]

thank you all.

We are going to get a second hand baby jogger city mini gt too for off road etc.
I wont be on buses much at all - mainly in streets / out and about in restaurants and cafes and then on the tube occasionally.
Mrs MogginsMinge - i think you are right - the Cruz seems the best option - just keep hearing reviews about the front wheels getting stuck and so having to go back and forwards!!! but i guess ill get used to that!

[Bryonie2017]

Hi ellabe I have the Vista and I absolutely love it but it is wide so can be hard in smaller shops although ive never not managed even in pokey charity shops. I do have to take the wheels off to get it in the back of the car. On the other hand its really easy to change between the Bassinet and car seat (LO is 2 months) and is super sturdy.

I would say I'm impressed when anyone takes a buggy on the tube, I did it once and i was terrified on the escalators and the lifts at Victoria were miles out of the way - I would recommend a sling for occasional tube use - much easier!

[greendale17]

I would say either the Cruz or Vista

[Frazzled2207]

The best thing about the vista is the enormous basket. Literally a whole day out can fit down there. Not seen any that have a basket like that. It's big and not the easiest to fold but is a terrific piece of kit.
Only thing is the folding mechanism on ours did break just after the 2 yr warranty expired but the lovely folk at JL sorted it anyway. So buy it there! Have loads of friends with vistas who never had an issue.

[FoofFighter]

I wont be on buses much at all - mainly in streets / out and about in restaurants and cafes and then on the tube occasionally.


In that case I'd seriously consider the Bugaboo Bee

[ellabe]

Thank you

Frazzled 2207 and Bryonie2017 - do you find the width of the vista a problem if you are parking it up in restaurants / cafes - can you get it through single doorways easily?
thank you!!

[user1499786242]

I have a bugaboo cam and bee
Deffo don't get the cam if you want to be able to fold it down easily
It's a bloody pain in the arse
We keep it up all the time so not much of an issue but if I was folding it every day it would piss me off and hurt my back most likely
The bee is easier to fold and I keep it in my boot so use it for shopping, cafes, etc
But not great off road
So if you're looking for one that can do both I would choose something else :)

[FloatingCamel]

Yeah if you're going in cafes and want the least possible people hating you, get a bee. I think you'll use the city mini gt a lot. TBH if you've got that in mind anyway, id spent your main buggy money on that and get a second hand one of whatever else you decide.

[abigailgabble]

I love our vista but it is big (we are rural) and I hate taking it into cities, on public transport I absolutely need a second pair of hands.

[abigailgabble]

IA I find those really low bugaboos very odd. If I were in a city I'd get the little bugaboo, the bee I think? Loved that one but no good for my most common terrain.

[abigailgabble]

Also (sorry me again), on public transport you need one that collapses easily! That should be a major factor, go and play with them!

[Frazzled2207]

I never found the width a particular issue but it was a pain to fold up

[RoryItsSnowing]

Bugaboo cameleon is great, my husband is tall and handles it fine, the handle height adjusts really easily.
Yes the shopping basket is near on impossible to access while using the carrycot but I think it will be fine to use as soon as you start with the buggy. I don't have time for shopping with a newborn so it hasn't bothered me, I'm hoping by the time we hit 5/6 months and are using the buggy seat I'll be able to have leisurely shopping trips!

[RoryItsSnowing]

Also a pp said it's difficult to fold but I've always found it so quick and easy to fold down, literally 10 seconds and the frame is flat on the floor.

[weekfour]

I've got a Vista. Because I'm tall and so are my kids. The hood on the seat will extend upwards to accommodate my ginormous two year olds head. Maybe something to consider if your husband is tall. It might not be on your radar right now but said two year old will not fit in an iCandy Orange.... and he's crap at walking anywhere.

I'm using it as a double at the moment and it's the best buggy I've had (and I've got three kids so I've been through a few). Having said that, I wouldn't dream of using public transport by myself. I walk most of the time and it's beautiful to push and the huge basket is good for all of the junk that three kids accumulate.

[Zebrasinpyjamas]

I have the vista and I love it. I have the older model but it has lasted so well through 2 children. My 3.5 yo still goes in it on occasion. I live in London too and find it suits my lifestyle well. Yes it's bigger than some others but it doesn't really stop me doing anything I want to do. No pushchair is ideal in a small shop imo. It fits through doorways and on the bus (but I try to avoid the bus as it's annoying not knowing if there will be space in advance so I prefer to walk). I always get on the back of the bus anyway as do most people here.
The shopping basket is huge and very useful. I find it easy to push on most terrains. It converts to a double too (which the cruz doesn't afaik) . I loved it as all the accessories other than a footmuff were included.
It doesn't fold particularly small but I don't think any of the ones you mentioned do. The other downside is its quite heavy. That doesn't really bother me as I don't lift it much but if you use a car loads it's worth considering.

[TheLegendOfBeans]

Can I chuck in a vote for the Mamas and Papas Armadillo Flip XT?

Thy thing was the nuts: so light and very flexible plus a doddle on the tube, train, bus.

We had to say goodbye to ours as we have an 18mo DD and a new baby imminent. God I miss that pram x

[Howsthings1234]

I had the 2015 Cruz and loved it. Lovely and compact and my daughter was always really comfy in it. I’ve sold it as I’m now expecting baby number two so looks like I’m going to buy the vista now as it converts to a double. My only regret is not going for the vista in the first place as I could have saved myself a lot of money - not something I considered when buying first time around xxx

[user1497306797]

I chose the cruz because I live in London and its so easy to get around. Very convenient. I dont have problems with the front wheels. I also found that its not as expensive as the other ones.

You can also fold it down and put it in your car without having to separate the chair from the base.

It comes with all the essentials, like car seat adapters so you do not need to purchase extra ones.

I have had it for 2 years now and because of its size I have not needed to buy a separate smaller stroller like most of my friends.

This is the one I bought and would recommend it - amzn.to/2khgerQ

There are also some other considerations here which I find useful - babyconfused.com/pushchairs-and-prams/