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Torn between BabyJogger Versa and Bugaboo Bee+. Help!(86 Posts)
Just wondering if anyone can help me on this one. One minute I think I've settled on the Versa then the next I'm swaying back to the Bee+. I've looked at loads of others and narrowed it down to these two, but just can't decide which one. If anyone has used these and can offer any pearls of wisdom, I would be forever grateful!
I live in a city basement flat with a short flight of stairs outside. Pavements around where I live can be quite cracked and bumpy in places, but the town centre is smooth.
I'll mainly be walking into and around town and to the park/along the river which is bit more rough terrain in patches. Car and short bus journeys a couple of times a week.
The Bee - I love the lightweight feel and the idea of being able to move in and out of tight spaces. I also wonder will having the Bee mean avoiding having to get another smaller lightweight stroller later on. I struggled when I tried swapping the seat round in the shop and found the two hand fold/unfold a bit fiddly. Also feel a tad concerned about a newborn being safe so low down and in only a cocoon. Biggest concern is the wheels. Will they cope with pavement cracks, rougher patches of ground, cobbles? And the shimmying problem I keep hearing about. One of the display models I played with in the shop actually had this problem.
The Versa - love most things about this including ease of folding, turning the seat, big basket, feels sturdy. Main worries are the weight. It feels heavy to lift when folded so I doubt I could carry it very far but guess one flight of stairs or onto a bus would be ok. Not sure about curbs. Also, it's a bit bigger unfolded than the Bee so wonder if it will fit through all doors, be easy to move in shops/restaurants/public transport. Also, I'd like the GT version but don't think I could handle the extra weight, but wonder if the standard wheel version will be good enough.
Sorry for the rambling.
Look forward to hearing from anyone who has experience of these two and could maybe help.
Oooh, what a wally! Only just read your updated comment!
Glad you've made your choice, hope it is a lovely buggy! Please come back to us with a full review, incase it's super amazing and we all need to buy one!
How strange about the Bee+'s wheels - but then again, unless you have a weight in there, a lot of buggy wheels do shimmy, especially as the Bee is so light; so maybe that was the issue?
Good luck with the Versa
Hi again Badger, sorry haven't been on since to answer your question about the wheels - my wheels never shimmied! But I know that most people's have been fixed by the washers that they send out, so am sure it's fine. I've pushed some of the brand brand new ones and there are no problems with them at all - I think that issue's been fixed now
Feel free to ask anything else - the Bee+ + Toro carrycot was like a dream come true for me! I've always said that Bugaboo's biggest mistake was not having a carrycot for the Bee!
Hi there, went back to the shop and played with the Versa again. Lovely to push. I've ordered a standard one in black. The green display one in the shop was lovely but I figure long term black is better as will no doubt get trashed (I quite like the fabric, seems durable). They didn't have a GT to try, but I'm keen to keep the weight down so think the standard will be the best option for me (will probably get total wheel envy if I see anyone out and about with a GT one though, but I'll live.). Tried the Bee again too. The new navy blue with neon wheels one had just arrived, which looked really smart. But even though it was brand new in the shop, the wheels still fishtailed when I turned it, walked fast and pulled it backwards. Real shame. Tried the bjcm GT too. Really, really liked it as so light to tip up. Almost went for it but my hubbie and I noticed that when we pushed it with seat fully reclined our thighs/knees kept knocking against the edge of the seat. I'm 5.6 and he's 6.4. Not sure if that's a common thing or we've just got weird legs! Also, when folded it didn't seem that much lighter than the Versa, a bit, but not as much as I would have thought considering the Versa's 2kg heavier. Might be a different story trying to lift it into the car or up/down stairs though, but hey. Fingers crossed I've made the right choice! Rooney, hope everything works out with yours, keep us posted. Tiggy, nice and reassuring to hear that you still love yours.
Yes there are 3 recline settings. The extending footrest is neat.
I am sorry to hear you have had issues with your Versa, Roony. I love mine. I am glad you are getting a new chassis.
BTW apparently (not that I have tried) but City Select hoods fit on the Versa. It may be that the City Select fabrics fit on too??? But I can't try. But Kooltrade's Customer Services may be willing to try for you!?
Ah you may well be right. I have taken it apart now so can't go and try - but I've not had it long enough to have a proper idea, so don't take my word for it!
And yep, think I get what you mean about fabric, thanks.
Also, in the video I saw I'm sure it said there are 3 seat settings and showed a cheeky wee mid way recline, which looked quite nice.
Also, in the video I saw I'm sure it said there are 3 seat settings and showed a cheeky wee mid way recline, which l quite nice.
Ah yes I get what you're on about! I had to take off the seat fabric yesterday, in preparation for the new bit of frame.
What it is is that the bottom section of the footrest, is a separate bit of metal tubing to the rest of it. And it has two little white buttons on the sides, and when you press them, the bottom section of metal extends down - there's elastic in the sides of the footwell fabric, and it makes it a couple of inches longer.
I didn't realise this was there till I took off the fabric as I haven't looked at the manual yet but it's a pretty good idea
Fwiw the fabric doesn't detach from this section so I don't think you could machine wash it - unless I'm missing summat - but because it's very thick, plasticky material I am sure it would be best just washing it down in the bath. It's not like anything could really sink into it iyswim.
Ah, I get what you mean. Am sure I saw something in a video about the bottom bit of the seat extending a bit to make more room for legs if you pull it out, but it might have been a different pushchair-looked at so many! Does it say anywhere about washing the seat fabric? Can't find any info about that. Wondering if you can take it off and bung in washing mashine like the bjcm?
Just to say the foot rest doesn't fold any lower, Badger - it's only got two positions relative to the seat itself.
The seat has two positions - upright (which is a decent upright imo) and laid back. And then you can adjust the footrest to the two different positions as well. I put baby ds in it yesterday, for a moment, while I faffed about with something, and he looked pretty happy in the laid back posture - but he hates being flat anyway. But it didn't make him slump.
might use it a bit before 6 months then
Thanks kateShmate, that's interesting about the carrycot. Will have a look. The seat doesn't look as big in that pic, if only I could understand what they're saying! I think the foot rest does fold down out of the way though so older kids can put their feet on the curved bit of the frame below.
Have you had any issues with your bee's wheels. That's my main worry, partly the shimmying problem (and Bugaboo just sending washers out that don't always fix it) and partly the wheels getting stuck in holes and maybe not being tough/big enough to cope with the dodgy pavements and bumpy footpaths that crop up quite regularly around where I live. There are a lot of smooth pavements too as I'm in a city but to get to the nearby park and river (only 15 mins walk) it's a bit rough. The poor baby might be rattled around a fair bit! But for jumping on buses and nipping around town I know it would be great.
Just thought I would come in with my vote for the Bee+! I have one, (even though I have 3YO triplets who I rarely take out separately) but I cannot bare to part with it because I just love it so much!
I can 100% accept that the 'newborn mode' (i.e. laid flat with cocoon) isn't very appealing, and I have to admit that I wouldn't lie any of my newborns in it. However, if you're willing to buy a few extra bits, it could potentially be the Pram of your dreams!
Right, if you buy the Maxi-cosi carseat adaptors for the buggy, they slot in and a Micralite Toro carrycot can then be inserted into the adaptors (obviously same shape and width). It makes a fantastic pram as the adaptors significantly increase the height of the carrycot. The carrycot itself is absolutely lovely - really big and roomy. Have a look on eBay for the carrycot as they are very hard-wearing and last brilliantly.
If you give the Bee+ with toro carrycot a google, loads of people have done this. Obviously Bugaboo themselves cannot vouch for this as the combination has never had any H&S tests; however, many mums have done this and been extremely pleased!
Unfortunately I haven't had a Babyjogger, but having given it a google, it does look nice. I did come across one picture though - here (I know it's a foreign site) where it seems that the seat doesn't look very long? It looks like a pretty big buggy, but with quite a short seat?
Although as I said, I've not had one of these so can't really comment.
Hope the Bee + Toro combination works for you!
Nah, it will have has it and i just straight didn't notice.. you mean the semi circle on the footrest? I genuinely don't remember it but i probably put a footmuff straight on and didn't take it off till it went back.
Looks like both on the comparison on that site.
It's strange isn't it - well, I've spoken to the shop and he's going to see if the factory can send me a new frame direct. And I don't have to send back this one as they can see from the photo it's chipped.
He said they won't be sending the fabrics though, just the frame so no can do on the red, and they might just send me one from their own stock if the factory hasn't any. But I guess I can sell the spare seat on ebay or something, obvs stating the fault, which brings the price down in total.
He said they might want it back but will let me know.
Maybe white stitching is just on the GT one?
Really Parties? I wonder if that was the first batch you had - the ones that got recalled? Maybe they changed it since then.
I'll call them I think in a minute and try and ask.
My black versa didn't have any white stitching at all. This is all quite odd. I wonder if they will be willing to mix the seats.
Oh just go back and make sure you like it. It's a big outlay - also, ask them about price matching. Most places are asking 429 for the GT. So it's a good price.
I think depends on how they are replacing the seat tbh, if they're getting it ordered in from the manufacturer they might just as well ask for a Versa seat - not sure how it works. I think I'd like the red better as it doesn't have the white stitching I think.
Wow! I'm sure they would exchange for red, you're not messing them around at all. Ooo, I don't know what to do now. Might have to go look at it again in the shop just to be sure. Although, have already played with it twice in the same shop, they'll probably think I'm odd going back again!
It's lovely to push - have tried it in the hall only but still, really nice.
I have relented. It's staying They are sending a new seat unit though. I'm wondering if they could send me the versa one in red, instead. But haven't asked yet as too embarrassed for messing them about!
the way it folds is superb, I have to admit and the chassis is beautiful...I am going to colour the white thread black with my sharpie, and put a nice footmuff in it
Hmmm. Can't really remember what i thought of the fabric when i played with it in the shop. I don't remember white stitching though. To be honest I think I was too busy folding and unfolding it and going "ooOOoo" to notice much else! What about the weight, you thought it was heavy getting it out of the box, yeah? Did you have a wee push around the house with it?
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