Help! Is this a leak or condensation?

[Lilacbluewaters]

Since the rain has started my bedroom upstairs have all had water running down the walls from the seams where the wall meets ceiling.
The worst is in my babies nurseries which is upsetting.
Anyway, my landlord and agency are both putting the blame on me and saying it’s condensation and the way I’m living.
But this is only happening when it rains, it’s so much worse when it rains heavy too!!
If it was condensation would it not be everyday?
If anyone has any experience or something similar please let me know as I feel like they just don’t want to pay out and fix anything.
Also in the loft there is lots of bits off the trees so I’m wondering how they got in? The agency said lofts are built now with ventilation, so does this mean there are gaps on places? I just feel like I’m being mugged off but hopefully people understand I don’t want to put my baby and toddler in rooms that are leaking, it is all 3 bedrooms upstairs.

[Vapeyvapevape]

That’s a leak , I had exactly the same and it was a problem with the roof . I’d keep in at the landlord, it’s his property and it will only get worse and potentially cost more to repair if he leaves it.

[HalfHope]

Looks like a leak to me too.

[Wingedharpy]

If there are bits off trees in the loft space, I would suspect there'll be a bog garden all along the gutters.

[Northernsoullover]

It might be the guttering.

[Northernsoullover]

Ring Environmental Health. Its not condensation, they can formally instruct your letting agents to inspect and rectify.

[purpleme12]

Bloody hell it doesn't look like condensation to me!

[LIZS]

Blocked and overflowing guttering?

[Lilacbluewaters]

Thank you for the comments
So the landlord came round and emptied the gutters, I haven’t actually looked myself so I have no idea what the state of them is/was.
The landlord also went up into the loft but said it was fine, but I can’t trust what they say.
All the landlord said was that I could move… obviously doesn’t want to fix anything.
But as most of us know the prices in renting has sky rocketed and as it stands I really can’t find anything within budget.
I wish I had more knowledge on roofing, I did think there is no way it could be condensation

[Lilacbluewaters]

Can I ask what the problem was with your roof to cause it?

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Depends on your roof type. But most British homes have tile roofs in f either slate or ceramic. So a slipped tile could cause a leak. Also if any chimneys, the flashing can leak.

[Woobeedoo]

Roofing membrane is designed so that if there were a slipped tile, water would run along the membrane and out. In an older property quite often the roofing membrane doesn’t run right to the edge of the tiles and in time, gets brittle and cracks further up along the roof allowing rain water to seep through the small gaps in the tiles and into your house.

It’s quite an expensive fix and not a lot of roofers know about this but you can get lengths of eaves guard. The roof tiles from the guttering to about 4 runs up need to be removed. This will expose the damaged membrane. The eaves guard is then slid partially under the edge of the damaged roof membrane, nailed in place, tiles put back and job done.

Many roofers though haven’t heard of the eaves protection system and will instead ‘fix’ what they call mystery leaks by applying external silicon round all tiles near the area where there is water penetration.

[LIZS]

Dm had similar from worn flashing where pitched roof and dormer met.

[OnTheBenchOfDoom]

Can you go into the loft? I have experienced 2 roof leaks, one from a broken ridge tile and one from a cracked tile. However, my loft is boarded out and has lighting. Easy for me to look and see where the water was coming in.

Sadly water travels so you need to be looking to see where the wet patch first starts to give you a clue to where the water might be coming in. Ultimately this is your landlord's responsibility but in this case you need to be better informed. Look to see if the roofing felt is still covering the inside, can you see any water leakage? Lofts can get condensation but that would be in a greater area rather than just one spot.

YouTube has a great range of videos if you need to see how something should look. It depends on the age of the house. Mine is 25 years old, it has ventilation with 2 ventilation bricks in the gable walls (sides) and there is a ventilation thing in place all round my sofits/facias. At no point have I had branches or any debris from outside inside my loft.