Need to build extension that will most likely cover at least half the patio

[Fressia123]

I've been reading about the "half the land around the original house". We live in an end of terrace with a tiny patio (3x5m) and need to build some sort of extension that will create a 4th bedroom. Is this impossible?

[Bluntness100]

It’s not about the size of your patio, it’s about the size of yout garden, as you yourself said.

Is your garden only patio?

[Fressia123]

Yea, that's the only outside area we have. No garden.

[Bridecilla]

Depends how big your patio is! We can't answer that!

We built a big extension that took up a chunk of garden but the garden is huge (ex council house) so still more than enough garden left for a patio, shed and for ds to play footy.

[Fressia123]

I've already mentioned how big the patio is (3x5m) plus some entryway area (negligible).

[Fressia123]

The extension will be at least half the patio.

[Mamette]

OP if the entire outside space is only 15 sq m that doesn’t really give much scope to extend.

Can you convert the loft?

[PotteringAlong]

Your only outside space is 15 sq m? I would extend into the loft or dig out a basement.

[PotteringAlong]

And, actually, for the cost of both I would look to see if I could move

[Bluntness100]

Then the extension can’t be more than half that size, but that’s a very small extension and will leave you with a tiny patch of ground.

Is there no way to extend the loft?

Is it fifteen feet wide and nine foot long? So you’d be extending by less than four and a half feet out?

Is there no other option. Inc moving?

[LIZS]

I doubt you would get planning permission.

[Knittedfairies]

So is your patio what my grandma would have called a backyard?

[Bluntness100]

@LIZS

I doubt you would get planning permission.

She might not need it if she goes less than half the outside space. But she will if she tries to do more and it’s unlikely to be approved.

Op, has the house been previously extended?

[Fressia123]

Once you add all the outside space it's about 28sqm. Loft is not high enough and unfortunately we can't move because the next level of house is at least £50-60k and our salaries would never give us that sort of mortgage.

[Fressia123]

We think the galley kitchen might be an extension but we don't think so as the bathroom is just above it.

[Bluntness100]

Couldn’t it have been a two storey extension? You need to find out.

Is the fifty to sixty k a typo? Because if you can afford to spend that on an extension you can afford to spend it on a house right?

[Bufferingkisses]

Look on Google earth and see if neighbours have done similar. If they have you may get PP although it's not a given as rules change obviously. Do you have any front yard space? That would be included in "land around the house".

[Fressia123]

We never pass affordability because of our personal circumstances. So we can afford a personal loan, but a mortgage would never gives us that type of money. And we're also looking to spend around £25k.

[Fressia123]

No there's no from space, our wall on pavement level so to speak.

[LizzieMacQueen]

Single storey extension?

How will you get a bedroom though: Will it be added on behind your kitchen?

[Fressia123]

No the idea is to build it where the decking is. A completely separate room. It's for DSS who's a teenager and loves the idea of having his "micro flat".

[Bluntness100]

Op that’s not going to be a micro flat, it will likely not even meet the min size for a single bedroom.

[AnotherEmma]

An extension for £25k? Really? Have you spoken to any builders?!

[Fressia123]

Well that's where the planning permission comes in question. If we have 28sqm then an extension of 3x4m should fit. His current room is 2.5x1.5. he can fit his high sleeper.

[Mamette]

So not an extension then.

[Mamette]

Sorry, I hit post by accident.

Not an extension. A separate building at the end of your yard? Your DS will have to pass through outside space to get to the micro flat, is that right?