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Vendor refusing to obtain indemnity policy

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Neron · 14/01/2020 10:27

Buying a bungalow, literally the only outstanding thing is an indemnity policy. A huge conservatory has been built and they don't have a building certificate and have refused to buy the policy (about £100).
We had a full structural survey, flagged new flat roof to be done immediately. We decided to swallow this cost ourselves rather than dick about.
Can I ask - is it normal for the vendor to refuse and for us buyers to pick it up?

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endofthelinefinally · 14/01/2020 10:31

I would walk away tbh.

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LIZS · 14/01/2020 10:34

Seems shortsighted. How old is extension?

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AGreatUsername · 14/01/2020 10:36

Our vendor refused. She was a narky old mare who was raging at us because we insisted she meet us halfway on the mortgage down-valuation. We did begrudgingly pay the indemnity because we’d paid out for solicitors and couldn’t face walking away.

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Neron · 14/01/2020 10:44

Not sure on the age of it, the conservatory is 4 meters long and wide. Has hearing and light etc in it. The flat roof and glittering that needs replacing is above a bedroom and the garage. Think about 5 - 8k to do those plus it needs renovating so kitchen, bathroom, decorating etc

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Neron · 14/01/2020 10:45

Guttering, not sure where glittering came from...

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 14/01/2020 10:47

I'd walk away, mostly it's a buyers market, if they want to be arsy over £100 good luck to them!

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wowfudge · 14/01/2020 10:49

Is the flat roof leaking? Otherwise it doesn't need replacing immediately. I'd be inclined to use as leverage. If the vendor won't budge, you'll have to pay for it yourselves.

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misspiggy19 · 14/01/2020 10:49

Likewise you could just buy it for £100? Upto if you want the house enough?

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Mildura · 14/01/2020 10:51

It really depends on when it was constructed.

If it was in the past few years I'd be pretty insistent.

If the conservatiory has been there for 10 years+ there really isn't anything to indemnify yourself against.

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Neron · 14/01/2020 10:56

Our solicitor said it's an condition of the mortgage so we have to have one.
Yes the roof is leaking, the guttering is broken and emptying on to the flat roof so needs doing immediately.
We haven't had much luck in buying houses, last one fell through day before exchange and I'm just pissed off because we were prepared to swallow the roof cost.

Do you have to buy a policy every year or is it a 1 off payment?

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Mildura · 14/01/2020 10:57

It’s a one-off payment

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TriangleBingoBongo · 14/01/2020 10:57

Firstly, it’s a one off policy but check with your solicitor.
Would people really walk away for the sake of £100? You’ve already spent more than that. Why not offer to go halves and if they still refuse. Suck it up.

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Khione · 14/01/2020 11:01

Generally speaking an indemnity policy isn't worth the paper it's written on. It doesn't guarantee the work at all.

Mortgage companies demand them to cover legal costs in the very rare incidence of a third party claim in the future. Basically just to cover their back. In most cases not worth the paper its written on.

May as well pay for it yourself if your mortgage company is demanding it otherwise I wouldn't bother.

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Neron · 14/01/2020 11:03

Thanks 're it being a one off payment.
Habent said we're walking away, just pissed off given we haven't even tried to go back about the roof cost and he's being a douche for the sake of a 100.00 policy for something that would flag up to whoever tries to buy it.
Don't really know the protocol of these things and first time it's come up

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Mammajay · 14/01/2020 11:07

We had this same thing, We, as buyers, paid £75. Our solicitor thought we ought to pay it.

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Neron · 14/01/2020 11:33

Thank you all. I've just emailed our solicitor with instructions to go ahead. It's annoying but we need to move. Thanks again.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 14/01/2020 11:43

Likewise you could just buy it for £100? Upto if you want the house enough? well yes but the conservatory not having the right sign offs is the sellers issue not the buyers, hence I wouldnt be paying it personally.

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Pickpick101 · 14/01/2020 12:04

I'd pay though wouldn't be happy about it. I didn't think conservatorys needed building regs though. I would question exactly what this covers mind.

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Asdf12345 · 14/01/2020 12:24

At £100 I’d just pay it.

Mortgage requirements can be rather moveable, especially when attached to a retention. Ours came with a whole list that they agreed to ignore when I phoned up and offered to increase the deposit to cover them all.

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Mammajay · 14/01/2020 12:52

Our solicitor did a lot of work for us and would always fight our corner but he felt this was ours to pay not the vendors

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Dinosauraddict · 14/01/2020 13:23

I paid indemnity as a buyer once. Was about £150 I think, and honestly with the amount we'd spent on searches/fees etc we weren't walking away. It's nothing in the grand scheme of houses - easier just to pay it and move on!

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Mildura · 14/01/2020 13:35

Indemnity insurance used to resolve issues that come up during housing transactions is something of a con, imho.

I have never heard of anyone claiming on a policy, it's just a lazy way for there to be a tick in the right box.

In this case what are the chances of the local authority taking enforcement action for lack of building regs? Somewhere around zero I should think.

However, because the amounts are relatively small in comparison to the price of the property someone ends up agreeing to pay for the policy.

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Neron · 14/01/2020 14:00

Completely agree, in comparison to what we have spent on survey, searches and solicitor etc £100 is nothing. It's just annoying as it's a sellers issue and we've already sucked up about the roof (our choice to do that I know).
Already gave instructions to solicitor to go ahead, and I've asked if we can exchange this week given everything's done then

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897654321abcvrufhfgg · 15/01/2020 14:41

Indemnity policy/insurance can’t be bought by the buyer. It’s insurance to protect the seller in case the council make you tear it down

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LIZS · 15/01/2020 14:44

But you can split the cost

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