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Would you fly the union jack?

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cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 07:48:56

So after almost a decade of living in our house and wondering what on earth the large concrete post with two manacle type things hanging from it is for, we've realised it's not to hold down a dragon but to hold a flag pole.

DH is now toying with the idea of putting up a union jack. He is really keen and says it makes him think of village greens, the military, sporting events and sunshine. The problem is that I'm worried that the union jack has been appropriated by the far right. Perhaps not to the same extent as the George's cross, but I am worried it now has negative connotations (unless its a Royal wedding week).

House is not in a normal location in that we're rural and the house and a flag would not be able to be seen from the roadside, but neighbours and visitors to the house would see it. The house is big with large grounds. For context, there are a couple of big houses in the nearest village that frequently have the union jack flying.

Would you assume someone was probably racist (or a UKIP supporter - or both!) if they had a union jack flying? I'm concerned, DH says that if the union jack has been appropriated by the far right then its about time we re-appropriated it!

EnglishGirlApproximately Thu 19-Apr-18 07:52:17

I’d assume Ukiper and if I’m honest probably Britain First types living there. I’m not at all patriotic though!

Lanaa Thu 19-Apr-18 07:56:47

Are you talking about the Union Jack or st St George's Cross? The St George's cross does have racist connotations - I recently refused to buy a house because the neighbour had one flying in his garden.

The Union Jack is meh in my opinion but I have friends who don't like it. This article explains http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20966371

Personally flying flags on/around your house is just a bit naff imho. I judge people who have them and I think many others do too. Your house, your choice though.

Chickencellar Thu 19-Apr-18 07:57:41

I'd fly one if you want to , I wouldn't concern me what the neighbours thought. If you live in a grand old pile it's less unusual to see a flag of any kind flying than a back to back.

kissthealderman Thu 19-Apr-18 07:58:15

I'd assume UKIP too.

sausagedogsmakechipolatas Thu 19-Apr-18 07:58:39

Erm yeah, IME both the St George’s cross and the Union flags are flown by UKIP enthusiasts. Lots of them around here unfortunately, I wouldn’t fly one.

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 07:58:47

Union Jack and he is aware that it might be regarded as 'naff' and quite likes that! He embraces his cheesiness grin

RoundaboutSnail Thu 19-Apr-18 07:59:46

The Union Jack is for all of us and yes I would fly it if I had a flagpole.

sausagedogsmakechipolatas Thu 19-Apr-18 07:59:47

(I would totally go for some kind of dragon though grin)

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 08:00:02

Fully embraces it - to the extent that his other idea is designing a family crest to fly!

My preference is to accidentally knock down the post holder (although this would require a spare and careless jcb to be passing...)

PrincessoftheSea Thu 19-Apr-18 08:00:18

I would fly a pirate flag instead

ShatnersBassoon Thu 19-Apr-18 08:01:35

I'd think naff. I often drive past a house with a dirty, soggy, sad-looking union flag clinging to a pole outside - I imagine they have a velour sofa within.

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 08:02:52

Ooo pirate flag would be appreciated by the DC..

He's also half welsh and so would have the red dragon flying in a flash!

MardAsSnails Thu 19-Apr-18 08:03:07

Yeah I’d go with a pirate flag too, and maybe change to st George cross or Union Jack during World Cup/olympics if I could be arsed

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 08:03:40

House is big big with 10 acres of garden/land surrounding it.

KT63 Thu 19-Apr-18 08:03:48

I’m not keen on the Union Flag but then where I am it’s been appropriated by the Orange Lodge and various other nasty connotations attached to it. I think football hooligan when I see it. But then being technically catholic in the west of Scotland will do that to you.

Troels Thu 19-Apr-18 08:03:56

Buy a few flags and change them. Union jack when no one is visiting, Welsh Dragon if you have Welsh friends, French/scottish flag for those friends, and a Skull and crossbones when he's feeling feisty.

AsAProfessionalFekko Thu 19-Apr-18 08:05:16

There's a house near us who regularly hoist the Jolly Roger.

I think it was an old embassy house so they must've moved in, looked at the flagpole and thought...

Unless they really are pirates.

sausagedogsmakechipolatas Thu 19-Apr-18 08:11:22

I vote Welsh dragon!

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 08:11:30

Hmm, I could probably live with the interchangeable flags idea. I suspect people would then just think we were a bit quirky instead of racist and I can live with that.

cloudtree Thu 19-Apr-18 08:12:56

No permanent Welsh Dragon sausage! We already have household trauma during England/Wales rugby matches!

BluthsFrozenBananas Thu 19-Apr-18 08:13:39

There’s a house near my mum’s which flies a variety of seasonal flags. There’s falling leaves for autum, a snowman for winter, flowers for spring and a big sun for summer.

ClaudiaWankleman Thu 19-Apr-18 08:14:07

Have you got a county flag? I quite like our one.

ThePencil Thu 19-Apr-18 08:14:48

I'd think UKIP too, tbh. But I like the idea of designing a family crest and flying that!

spacestranger Thu 19-Apr-18 08:18:08

How sad that people can't fly a flag without being thought racist.

What's wrong with being patriotic? sad

However it is true that flying one is deemed a bit racist whether that's the intent or not - but only in England! Scots, Irish and Welsh apparently fine to fly their flags.

Fucked up society!

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