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Electromagnetic water softeners

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Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 10:11:39

Does anybody have one? And if so,do they work?

We are looking to install a water softener and our engineer is recommending this as a great alternative to the regular salt filled softener.

PigletJohn Wed 10-May-17 10:40:59

they work in the same way that a copper bracelet cures rheumatism, or an acorn tied to your windowframe prevents the house being struck by lightening.

RandomlyGenerated Wed 10-May-17 11:10:25

Domestic electromagnetic water softeners won't change the minerals in the water or keep calcium in suspension long enough to have any benefit to your water / pipes / appliances.

Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 11:16:53

Right, so spending a grand on one of these over a couple of hundred on a regular softener would be the utter madness I suspected it would be.

RandomlyGenerated Wed 10-May-17 11:18:12

Is your engineer an agent for selling these things?

Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 11:19:52

No he isn't. He suggested it as they are apparently smaller than the normal softeners. He has heard about them and I think is keen for someone to try one out so that he can see if they actually work.

RandomlyGenerated Wed 10-May-17 11:27:41

You can get small domestic ones for a couple of hundred pounds if you really wanted to give it a punt?

Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 11:32:15

I'm not really that fussed. DH is a bit excited about trying it out but I can't see anything that makes it sound as though they actually do anything?

PigletJohn Wed 10-May-17 11:38:40

I believe the people who sell these things have been forced to offer a money-back guarantee to those punters who notice that they don't work.

Have a look at the ads to see if it is mentioned.

Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 12:29:21

Can you recommend a normal water softener?

PigletJohn Wed 10-May-17 12:47:11

I'd usually approach the local water softener company; verify that they repair softeners and deliver salt locally, then ask what they sell.

the components are widely sold and many are made by a major international company, to be assembled by various makers, so it seems to me that a reputable local company will be selling a product they are happy to guarantee and service.

I am currently using a reconditioned Permutit from a local specialist, because the price was very attractive compared to having my old Permutit repaired. There is only one assembly in it that has any moving parts.
(the Permutit company went bust some years ago and the trade name is now used by another company, it may not be of the same standard).

IME they go for about 10-15 years before the seals wear or jam and need repair or replacement.

Lots of people like the Harvey, though it is rather expensive. Companies that advertise in the Sunday papers, or sell door-to-door, tend to have rather high prices.

There are some very cheap machines sold in the DIY sheds, you may find that local specialists are unwilling to repair them.

BTW my reference to salt delivery is that if you carry salt in your own car, a single spilled piece can rust a hole through the floor. Look in the salt delivery van and you will be shocked. If you find a local supplier who will sell and maintain your machine, and deliver your salt, I hope you will be as happy with them as I have been with my local company.

Chuckle17 Wed 10-May-17 12:50:22

The softener is going to be installed along with a new boiler and heating system. I've been told Kinetico high flow is good. Have you heard of it?

PigletJohn Wed 10-May-17 12:56:12

yes but have no personal experience.

If you are getting a combi or an unvented cylinder, you need high flow. This is usually done by fitting larger valves, hoses and connectors. The makers should state the flow rate.

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