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Would you buy a house with no hallway?

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user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 14:44:47

We've been looking for our first house for a while and have found a lovely one; the only thing is, the layout is slightly odd. They used to have a garage and they've converted it into an actual room and added a porch. This means there's no hallway.

So you walk into the porch, open a door on your right and you have (what they use as) the dining room. Once you've exited the dining room, you're technically in the kitchen. You have a door to the living room on your left, and then stairs to your right. Running perpendicular is the kitchen which leads to conservatory.

Is it really odd a) having no hallway, b) having stairs from the kitchen and c) having no door on the kitchen? If we needed to sell in future would this affect that?

thanks!

JT05 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:10:29

Personally, I wouldn't buy a house that had stairs going up from a kitchen, cooking smell would waft up and I'd worry about fire safety, unless there was a door at the bottom of the stair.
Lots of new build go straight into a living room to save space, so it's not uncommon. I don't care for that design myself, but I doubt it would put people off.
If you do decide to offer on the house, I would check that the unusual design was passed by building control before the conversion.

sweetheart Mon 06-Feb-17 15:30:27

I would imagine that any house that has been badly extended would be more difficult to sell. Is it cheaper than other similar size houses on the market in the area? If so then there is your answer.

savagehk Mon 06-Feb-17 15:33:25

I think I need a floorplan confused

any chance of adding in a hallway? Sounds like not?

user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:34:29

To be honest I think it was an improvement on the previous layout - apparently before you walked straight into the living room - no porch or hallway. and the stairs came down directly into the living room. Now at least it feels like the stairs are a bit separate (even though they arent!). So I don't think they've done a 'bad extension' as such, but if I was them I would've added a hallway and made the dining room smaller.

I didn't think about smells etc from the kitchen and fire safety - that's very valid. I guess if it's making me think twice, it would make any future buyers think twice too!

It's hard to compare it to other houses on the street as they're all bigger than this one, so have gone for a bit more.

ClementineWardrobe Mon 06-Feb-17 15:36:05

Nope. I am extending my house now and a critical part of it is a short extension of the existing hallway. They are essential for getting rid of daily bumph like coats, bags, cleaning muddy paws. I have a thing about beautiful hallways.

Floralnomad Mon 06-Feb-17 15:36:42

No I wouldn't buy a house with no hallway and I agree with pp about not wanting stairs from the kitchen . If they have no garage what storage do you have for all the outside crap / paint pots / tools / junk .

user1483387154 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:38:24

No, that layout would not work for me.

BaronessBomburst Mon 06-Feb-17 15:38:59

I think that might be unmortgagable.
Pretty sure stairs in the kitchen is a no-no, if it's the only flight.
Obviously in a Downton Abbey type scenario backstairs in the kitchen would be normal.

whatever happened to LeQueen

ArchNotImpudent Mon 06-Feb-17 15:45:58

I've lived in two with no hallway - both were Victorian terraces and front door opened into living room. The first one didn't have front porch - we found we ended up using the back door all the time, as that had a lobby where we could leave coats etc.

The second had a porch so was a bit better. The first one was rented; the second I owned, and I didn't have any issues selling it at all. It's very common in old terraces - the hallway is often knocked out to give a larger living area which is generally seen as desirable.

BreatheDeep Mon 06-Feb-17 15:48:28

Our house doesn't have a hallway. In fact most small victorian houses don't - the 2 up, 2 down types like ours. Plenty of people cope with no hallway.

The stairs as you describe would put me off though.

mistermagpie Mon 06-Feb-17 15:48:35

It would put me off and my house is tiny with only a small hallway, but it's still a hallway so somewhere to put the pram/shoes/etc. Can you post a layout as I'm struggling to see how the stairs work!

user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:50:20

They do have a shed for bits and bobs, and obviously a porch for shoes and coats - but you're all right it is a tiny bit odd and I've never lived without a hallway so think I'd find it weird!

ArchNotImpudent I would think it is common on terraces, as hallways can be seen as a waste of space - however this is a detached house and think it wouldn't be see as common in other houses like it e.g. i don't think any of the other houses on the road have a similar layout

Thanks for all replies - I think this answers my question!!

BoboChic Mon 06-Feb-17 15:50:47

I lived in a flat where the hallway was much bigger than the kitchen and sort of wrapped round it. I should have removed the kitchen wall and walked straight into a large kitchen-dining room.

Having said that, I lived there alone. I'm not sure odd layouts work for families.

WanderingTrolley1 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:50:55

No.

CMOTDibbler Mon 06-Feb-17 15:51:37

I've lived in two houses with no hall or porch. One you stepped off the street into what the estate agents called a vestible - just a tiny area partitioned off with no room for coats. Then all of downstairs was one room, with open plan stairs going up - no kitchen door or understairs cupboard.
The second, you stepped off the drive straight into the sitting room. Stairs went up on your right, through an arch to the dining room, doors to bathroom on right, kitchen on left.

It wasn't ideal in either case, but the house prices reflected the layouts, and it wasn't too much of a pain to live in

Helenluvsrob Mon 06-Feb-17 15:55:00

Houses I have known where the front door opens into the lounge have been 2up 2 down format.

The stairs then come off the 2nd reception room BUT almost always they have a door on them. P

FlyWaxSleepRepeat Mon 06-Feb-17 15:55:13

My first house was a 2 up 2 down, a small porch leading straight into the living room. It's manageable, but it's one of those things where you don't realise how undesirable it is until you've lived in one. I don't think many people would set out deliberately wanting that layout.

I've never ever bought a house like that since. The 3 houses I've lived in since then have all had a proper hallway where you can access almost every downstairs room off the hall.

Having to walk through the kitchen to access any other room would be a complete no for me.

SquedgieBeckenheim Mon 06-Feb-17 15:57:19

I would hate to live in a house with no hallway, but that's personal choice. Plenty of people do it! Our old house had such a tiny hallway you couldn't have the front door fully open and get around it. A porch would probably serve the same purpose, however I do like stairs to be separate ie not in a room.
I agree with all the pp's re the stairs in the kitchen, I wouldn't be happy with that.

user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 15:58:20

Here's a badly drawn and totally not to scale pic!

BreatheDeep Mon 06-Feb-17 16:03:25

How big is the dining room? Could you put a hallway in that goes from porch to bottom of stairs solving both problems?

user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 16:08:02

BreatheDeep around 4m x 2m so would lose alot of space. As a side note, we probably don't need a dining room now so could change the use of that room but not sure adding a hallway and losing so much space would be worth it...?

BreezyThursday Mon 06-Feb-17 16:11:03

Whilst I wouldn't choose it, at least the living room is still separate and it looks like you don't really have to go through the kitchen to get to it.
Is there an upstairs hallway? We had friends who had stairs from the kitchen without a problem, and round here walking straight into living room is very common; often bathrooms are an extension upstairs through back bedroom (which I'd consider worse).

If it's lovely, well-priced and gives you space you couldn't otherwise afford I wouldn't write it off...

savagehk Mon 06-Feb-17 16:14:30

Could the dining room wall move to the other side of the stairs (i.e smaller size kitchen) to avoid the smell potential issue? I think that layout (as drawn) would be OK provided you could put hooks/shoe racks either in porch or down the LHS of the dining room wall. Something neat and tidy obvs so it doesn't muck up the dining room.

user1479289699 Mon 06-Feb-17 16:17:25

Thanks BreezyThursday The living room is definitely separate, I guess it's the flooring that makes it feel like you're in the kitchen before you're in the living room!

There is an upstairs hallway yes, upstairs layout is not a problem at all. I think rather than the stairs being in the kitchen issue, it's having to walk through a room to get to the rest of the house which is putting me off!

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