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is council house bidding system a con

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onmars Tue 20-Sep-16 16:57:19

Hi all,
new here so sorry if this is posted in the wrong place. If needs be, please feel free to remove the post.

Basically I've been bidding for council housing but I'm having no luck being offered anything. I'm registered with two councils and most weeks manage to find a suitable property to bid on in each area. The trouble is I'm finishing 10th place in one area and call it 30th in the other. Flats and houses are offered to the bidder in first place and if they dont want to move in the property is offered to the person that came 2nd.

Anyone above the top 3 bidders are ignored and have to start bidding again the week after. What I don't understand is how one person in band 3 is better off than any other in band 3. I mean if your awarded band 3 and so is your neighbour !! how can you both bid on the same flat but come close of bidding cycle your neighbour potentially finishes higher than you ?

is there a tier within each of the bands ? do the council say put him/her in band 3...BUT make them less of a priority than jim and jan down the road !! because jan is more depressed than either him or her !!

whatever the case, Ive noticed there seems to be NO POINT IN BIDDING THE DAY THE BIDDING CYCLE IS DUE TO CLOSE. When the cycle starts at midnight on Tuesday and closes at midnight the following monday, placing a bid just before midnight on Monday can't count for anything because at 1 min past midnight the property is already let !!!!!!!

Check it out if you are bidding on council housing. Click recent lets straight after the cycle closes. if your council uses the same system that is used by the council im registered with then that past weeks properties will already be let just gone midnight. How is this possible ? at what point on close day does bidding become a waste of time ? do the council know who the property is going to be given to prior to anyone even bidding ?

I always thought people could bid til midnight (even at 11.59pm council website always states 1day left to bid) and the next working day the council employees would make up a shortlist and contact the lucky bidders !!??

Anyways apologies this is a long first post. This bidding system just seems odd and a waste of time. Anyone else think so ? anyone know how things really work in a councils housing department ? I'd be interested to know your thoughts (: cheers (:

stitchglitched Tue 20-Sep-16 17:04:50

It goes by band but also how long you have been on the list. So if one person is in Band 3 and has been on the housing list for 6 months they will come higher than someone who has been bidding only 2 months.

Hidingtonothing Tue 20-Sep-16 17:06:17

I don't know for sure but is it not down to who's been waiting the longest in each band? So whoever has been on the list the longest would automatically be given first refusal, that would explain the property showing as 'let' at midnight too if it's an automatic process. Am happy to be corrected if there's holes in my theory but it makes sense to me smile

chocdonutyy Tue 20-Sep-16 17:17:19

There are bands but everyone has points too.
So in our area there is priority, gold, silver and bronze, each property is only let out to one or more of those bands.
In those bands everyone is awarded points, for how long you are on the list, medical needs, overcrowding (and how severe), how long you have lived in the area and so on.
Basically the highest points "win"
Our system shows what position you will be in if you bid, obviously this can change as people bid and then retract bids in order to secure a property.

onmars Tue 20-Sep-16 17:25:10

Thanks for your quick replies. I could be wrong but I always thought the bidding cycle closed and a shortlist of 3 people is drawn up. And then the property is offered to the person at top of the list. I can't imagine anyone being available to offer or accept a property at midnight. There are also loads of threads on MN that suggest lets are not automatically given to anyone.

Last weeks bidding cycle ended at midnight last night, and at 1 min past midnight properties were marked LET. I then checked how many bidders there were on two flats I'd bid on. There was 87 on one and 85 on the other. I figure 80+ people logged onto the council website, saw two flats, and proceeded to bid on both. Should that be the case, why would I finish 30ish place on one of the flats and 20th on the other ? surely If im 20th on one I should be 20th on both. our circumstances are the same whichever we bid on so all 80 of us should finish the same position on both ?

chocdonutyy Tue 20-Sep-16 19:21:30

You will be at different positions depending on how many people have bid on the particular property.
So if there are 10 property's and everyone has 2 bids each then they are going to bid on different ones, say 25 on one, 15 on another, 10 on the third and so on. Some may only bid on one property or not at all. Plus not all property's are available to all bidders. You will see a certain number of properties but those on a different band may see more or less.

chocdonutyy Tue 20-Sep-16 19:23:09

I'm also guessing it states LET as it has been applied for and someone will get the property, I guess it's rare but maybe sometimes they offer up a property but no one wants it.

The4teddybears Sat 15-Oct-16 20:35:29

The system puts the bids received on each property in band and then date order within those bands. So if someone is band b from April and you're band b from June they will be above you .

The4teddybears Sat 15-Oct-16 20:38:57

Also the only way a property is 'clerically ' offered if it's adapted for disabled so doesn't go on the open bidding process . Other than that it's all done by computer and is totally fate and unbiased .

The4teddybears Sat 15-Oct-16 20:39:22

Fair. Not fate.

Fayha Sat 22-Jul-17 15:20:28

Hi, i don't know if i can get any help with my situation. I am 24 years old living with my parents and we are waiting for a two bedroom house or flat from council for over 10 years. Still nothing. My mum going through mental/suffocating illness over the last few months cz of the property we also got a medical letter from the gp proving that. I am suffering from a serious back pain as i have slept on the sofa for years and still am as i don't have space to put a bed. Been told that if I continue sleeping on the couch it could worsen up to something really serious. My dad also a heart/diabetic patient. Our one bed studio flat also been the victim of a burglar attack. Which is another reason mum feels scared all the time. We also been targeted of attack where every other day we would wake up to see someone has thrown eggs in our car. Sometimes youngsters keep on banging our windows too. Is there any chance that we hold to maybe soon get a 2 bedroom house or flat from this tiny one bedroom studio flat. Which doesn't even have partition from the bed where mum dad lives to where i sleep on the couch. I never had any privacy in my life cz of that. Now that i am 24 looking to get married I cannot even to do that cz of this situations. We tried to move into a private house cz of the financial situation we could not do that. We have almost £10k loan in our head. Which is another reason we cannot privately rent a bigger house. I will highly appreciate your time & concerns. Many thanks

Deesal Thu 08-Feb-18 01:08:06

hey does anyone know how long it can take to be offered a council house? Im in band 1 (highest priority) with my local council bury?

MrsMint Sat 10-Mar-18 07:50:51

This is going to upset any snowflakes reading but a friend was told directly by her housing officer when she asked about some brand spanking new social homes being built that they are being kept back for migrants. Brits can make do with the dross (if they get an offer at all that is).

sausagedogsmakechipolatas Sat 10-Mar-18 10:35:00

And that is a problem because....? A refugee doesn’t deserve a nice home I’m assuming?

KitKat1985 Sat 10-Mar-18 10:46:44

Fahya - it really depends what band you are in. If you are in a low priority band there will always be people getting prioritised over you. Your best bet might be to get your GP to write a letter saying that he / she feels that your accommodation is affecting your physical and mental health, and see if that will help move you to a higher band.

Deesal - could your housing officer advise you? It's really impossible for us to know without knowing how many other band 1 applicants there are and how many suitable properties are coming up.

MrsMint - what bollocks. I sincerely doubt the housing officer said that, and you trying to be deliberately inflammatory.

SundialInTheShade Sat 10-Mar-18 11:20:04

@Deesal depends what area in Bury you're aiming for and what size house. Anything above a three bed and you'll be waiting ages. Equally not much comes up if you're looking at Ramsbottom and round there but dicky bird, Redvales, Whitefield have more movement.

MrsMint Sat 10-Mar-18 21:34:54

@KitKat1985 you are either terribly naive or a bubble dweller. Breaking news: councils have been known to be corrupt and display malpractice; Rotherham anyone!? You need to get out a bit more love...

MrsMint Sat 10-Mar-18 22:00:47

@sausagedogsmakechipolatas Not while there are any Brits in substandard housing or on the waiting list. You're not a left leaning council worker are you dear? They love to prioritize foreigners.

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