Kitchen extractor fans

[didireallysaythat]

Can anyone recommend a kitchen extractor fan ? It will need to be mounted in a bulk head above the hob (ie > 1m from the hob) and will need to have the oomph to extract a distance of 3-6m (it will have to go through a steel, just not sure which one hence the range). And if it didn't sound like Concorde landing that would be a bonus. I'm anticipating £1000-2000 for such a beast - is that around right ?

TIA

[PigletJohn]

if it's above the hob, why don't you get an extractor hood?

[Thistledew]

Elica are a good value for money brand, as they make parts for most of the other companies who make extractors. You have to calculate the capacity you need based on the size of the room that it is situated in, so it is not possible to recommend a specific model without knowing the dimensions of your kitchen.

[didireallysaythat]

PJ the hob will be on an island and we'd like a clean line of sight across the room and down the garden. The chimney extractor fans I've seen are not things of beauty (but I don't like the beasts - if it was against a wall I'd just have a boxed one in a wall unit rather than a stainless steel roof thing).

Thistle thanks for name - I'll work out the room volume and take a look.

[LikeASoulWithoutAMind]

We have a similar issue and I am tempted by the extractor hoods that sit almost flush to the ceiling. Does anyone know how effective they are?

[wiltingfast]

They are rated for noise so you should be able to control for that if you look.

[didireallysaythat]

Like you and I are on the same search. I think it can be done. I fear there's ££ involved.

What I need is an idea of the noise values that I am OK with (can't stand noise, can't do ticking clocks etc). I wonder if there's an app....

[AesopsMables]

We have just gone through similar. It was a nightmare.
Having extension done and wanted extractor above hob in island, only problem was there is a steel in the way. This would have meant building a coffer which hangs down and therefore defeating the purpose of clear line of site. The builder stupidly suggested an expelair fan on wall opposite, that was never going to happen. So we have made a huge compromise and gone for a downdraft extractor in island which is so not what I had in mind as I am not convinced they are effective and cost twice the price (saves on building coffer costs though)

We at least can duct out under floor and chosen an Elica one.

[Behooven]

If I was able to, I'd go for the extractor set in at worktop level to prevent the smoke/smells rising in the first place.

[Behooven]

Like this for example

[AesopsMables]

Behooven: I am not convinced that you could extract all steam at that level, steam rises. At least downdraft curves over the hob (me thinks it will be only effective for back rings though)

[didireallysaythat]

It won't be an enormous island - the pop up extractors are fun but we were thinking a long hob (900 wide so shallow) - basically 4 rings in a row so you don't have reach over the front ones

[zeeww]

We ha a Luxair one before and it seems good. Allegedly Italian made and they have quite a few choices. Elica is also good

[PigletJohn]

electric hob? the downdraught suckers interfere with flame shape on gas.

[didireallysaythat]

Yes electric so the counter extractors are a possibility. I'll start looking but presumably there's some litres/minute number I should be looking for...

[Thistledew]

I learned quite a bit about extractors when buying one recently. For example, I did not previously know that the way to use them is to turn them on full power for about 5-15 mins (depending on strength) before you start cooking in order to get the air in the room circulating properly. You then turn it down to the lowest setting whilst cooking, and leave it running for 5-10 mins after you finish. This is the best way to properly extract the moist air from the room.

If you need an extractor for an island, and have the budget, an Elica Pearl would be what I would go for. The noise level (or lack thereof) is quite amazing. 66db on the maximum setting and 44db on the lowest. It is really not too intrusive at all.

[MiniBK]

I am consideriing buying the John Lewis JLCEILHD87 Ceiling Cooker Hood, to go on the ceiling above the hob on our island. There is only one review on the website, which is a negative one. Does anyone have this extractor or have any feedback about it please?

[Daisycutter400]

My extension ceiling is going to be just 2.45m and I due to an awkward steel, didn't want a 30cm box ruining the lovely flat line above the hob and island(plus £1000-£2000 of a negative budget), so am fitting a Manrose commercial extractor on external wall behind hob. It costs about £100, pumps similar (668 m3/hr) to the cheaper hoods and is quiet at just 50dB. If it doesn't pump enough, i'll knock a hole below it and stick in another. Building regs are happy as long as there is some form of extraction and doesn't have to sit atop the hob. Proof of the pudding and all that!

[langlandgirl]

following for later as i too have a large bulkhead in the way but also have a concrete floor in the old extension so extract through floor prob not an option.

[dulwichquine]

We have installed a Pando ceiling extractor fan, which worked out cheaper than likes of Westin. Spanish brand with one sole distributor in UK. Engine is made in Germany and is v good. Would suggest checking LED colours as we had to change them to warm white.

[ecosln]

We spent around that on a Westin. I compared extraction rates and noise and deemed that best for our purposes. It can fit flush in the ceiling or built into a box if not enough ceiling space for it to fit flush. Call them they are really helpful. We also bought direct from them.

[didireallysaythat]

Thanks for all the suggestions. Fantastically useful. I think I might need to hear one in action - I really don't know what 20 decibels is....

[OnePlanOnHouzz]

20 is quiet in my opinion - a dishwasher usually between 49-65dB

[didireallysaythat]

I choose 20 a bit randomly. I haven't worked out what the average noise level is. I'll be aiming for 20 now !

[powerjen]

We just had this one installed in our ceiling www.luxairhoods.com/ceiling-cooker-hoods/ceiling-cooker-hoods-large/ceiling-cooker-hoods-stainless-steel-slimline-fits-210mm-joists

(oddly they have 25% off every weekend).

The motor is remote (fitted in the attic) so it doesn't make any noise and it only need a shallow roof void (we had a steel beam in the way too). I had to have a bit of a lie down after agreeing to spend so much but now it's fitted and functioning (and the payment is a distant memory) I'm really pleased we went with it.

[didireallysaythat]

I like the idea of a remote motor. How does it work - you need a pipe all the way to your attic ? All our walls are solid brick (1950s). Not sure how we would do this....