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New kitchen - feels like I'm buying double galzing

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WetAugust Thu 29-Aug-13 17:30:34

I'm becoming increasingly annoyed at some of the very obscure tactics that some companies are used to ensure as little transparency as possible over the cost of a kitchen!

I've been (very grudgingly) given a price list for one kitchen I liked. Their assumption seemed to be that I just chose what I like regardless of having seen any costs per cabinet and they would give me a price.

Sorry - I like to pock cabinets based on my budget.

Then we come to installation!! There's 'basic' installation. It's half price this week. Then there's additional installation which is full price and for some companies does actually include the kitchen sink.

Why does the quotation to install the same kitchen vary by almost £2K.

Why do I have to pay a substantial 'deposit' which they all tell me is returnable just to get their installer to give me a quote?

Why is there always at least one item or activity missing from the quote as it 'will depend' on <whatever>

Have been dealing with 2 companies so far - both have the same vague attitude. I am feeling a bit conned.

I just want to know - all inclusive - how much to transform my old kitchen into the new kitchen that they are so keen to draw for me on their computers.

Can I get a straight answer - No!

Where am I going wrong?

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Fri 30-Aug-13 21:36:51

Just had a look at that web site, why oh why, do they all only do 900x900 why not L shaped?? They say L shaped but they aren't they are - half an x shaped. Grrr

Fossil I don't understand how a shallower depth would help confused

WetAugust Fri 30-Aug-13 21:44:37

Omega Classic Shaker has a 200cm door unit.

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Fri 30-Aug-13 21:48:18

Who is that by wet?

ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee Fri 30-Aug-13 21:48:50

Sorry - just found it smile

WetAugust Fri 30-Aug-13 22:02:35

Omega kitchens Price Group 1 has

15cm base unit with door £86 various carcass colours and gloss, shaker or walnut door styles. At that width I'd just paint it to match if necessary.

Omega kitchens Price Group 2 has15cm base unit with door in gloss, white, black, ivory, blue, green etc etc

or you can take a narrow horizontal bridging unit 600 x 288 and use it vertically?

or 15cm pull out base unit

How about a 26cm curved base end unit?

Appreciate some of the above may be barking but finding it hard to visualise

WetAugust Fri 30-Aug-13 22:06:16

They are the purveyors of Mrs WetAugust's new kitchen. grin

fossil971 Fri 30-Aug-13 22:28:54

I meant make the whole run of units on one side of the corner, reduced depth. It is only 100mm shallower than standard. I suppose you can't then put sink or hob on that run though. Then you would need say a 900x800 corner unit, which still has 300 (normal) doors. Somewhere like DIY kitchens might make you that for a small surcharge or you could take the unit apart, cut a bit off the back and screw it back together. Sorry this is probably making no sense without knowing your layout.

I have diy-installed kitchens too, honestly I know where you are coming from. But in some ways that gives you more scope to be creative rather than shove standard boxes in a row along a wall.

fossil971 Fri 30-Aug-13 22:32:21

I would agree with Jellylorum, DIY kitchens are a trade-price supplier with a massive choice of unit sizes. They make your kitchen to order so you can request (some) changes to the standard unit like leaving out a shelf or having it not glued so it can be taken apart and modified.

annalouiseh Fri 30-Aug-13 22:37:47

a 900 x 900 corner base needs 2 x 313 wide doors

my dh has done many bespoke 'L' shaped units at different sizes.
he said if you want a little bit of a smaller one...?
use 2 x 256 doors and the carcass size will be 840 x 840 if that fits
as used on this kitchen

treesntrees Sat 31-Aug-13 20:28:15

I went to a local builders/plumbers merchants who offered a fitting service for their kitchen units. This was for a corner base unit, pan drawer, wall unit and narrow base unit. Stainless steel sink unit and taps and very attractive granite effect worktops. All matched the existing units very well and the fitter had no trouble cutting down the corner unit to fit. What I am saying is maybe investigate somewhere similar.

WetAugust Sat 31-Aug-13 21:30:48

Thanks Trees

I got my deposit back from large high st retailer as they decided they wanted £4500 to install. That's a lot more than the units cost. Plus they've just started yet another special offer - having told me last week that there were no special offers running! I was so annoyed at their slipperiness I decided to ditch them.

That was when I discovered that my fallback option had been costed on the wrong kitchen! They've costed for a wood effect painted while I wanted a flat panel painted.

Goodness knows how much extra the re-quote will be.

So I may have tp go back to high st retailer again and get a requite at the new special offer. This is crazy.

Rang Wickes to see if I could get a price list for their order only kitchens. No. They have to design it for me. No available appointments as they are booked solid for 2 weeks!

And I had already started to remove the kitchen tiles so the whole thing looks totally shite and no replacement kitchen in sight!

I could scream

OhRetro1 Mon 13-Jan-14 12:18:05

Hi I don't know if you are still looking (we were for years before we finally bit the bullet) We found that too. DH came across this add for solidwoodkitchen Liked the Idea of solid Oak cabinets so decided to check them out (financially) Then In the end we went to solid wood kitchen cabinets showroom Brearley Court, Baird Road, Waterwells, Quedgeley, Gloucestershire GL2 2AF

OhRetro1 Mon 13-Jan-14 13:03:21

Sorry I'm not used to threads and hit the enter key.
Anyway we looked at their site online and decided to go have a look at their showroom (living up north this was a long drive but we weren't about to get ripped off) They do two styles traditional and shaker, we chose the traditional painted(there are plenty of colours to choose and you could even go natural). Everything is sold flat pack the cabinet bases are made of short stave solid oak (lacquered). We built our kitchen ourselves, It looks stunning! Far cheaper than the chipboard Rubbish you get at wren (one of their ladies wouldn't tell us how much things cost either they wanted to know how much we had to spend. so we walked) many other places do this too, it is really infuriating I don't spend at places like this. You don't have to have a set price to spend at solid wood kitchen ; you design your kitchen, you choose, you buy what you need whether it be a single base unit or a whole kitchen it's like a b&q but quality workmanship. I seriously can't big them up enough.
We costed a B&Q one up and there was only £300 difference between off the shelf cabinets (base units i think they are called) and off the shelf solid oak with veneer inserted doors for us. (we have a small kitchen though) when you compare the quality and the fact there is no veneer (apart from the slide in back panel at the back of the cabinets, this is to allow movement of the wood). All doors are made of solid oak, No veneer it is chunky solid Oak too and even the draw bases and backs are made from short stave solid oak the same as the cabinets. I was and am really pleased with the quality and the service as we were able to look thoroughly playing about with doors oh and the soft close blum hinges without being pounced on. (We were offered beverages these were free but apart from offering us a drink and biscuit no one bothered us until we were ready to speak to someone) We Saw, we chatted to the lady at the desk and we bought there and then.

The only downside I had was Delivery (We had to organise someone (Two strong blokes needed)) to help us unload the truck and I couldn't manage to lift the big stuff like work tops and large cabinet packs as they were far too heavy for me so left that to DH and the driver! But over all I would definitely recommend!

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