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If you love London but cant afford to live there, where would you go?

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kissmyheathenass Mon 28-Jan-13 11:08:58

Having moved away 14 years ago, we are totally priced out of the London housing market. I am so so bored with where I live, (south coast dull retiremnt place) I yearn for city life. Where can I find a city like London but with lower prices (350,000 ish for a family house) AND good schools - primary and secondary.

Sarah3736 Thu 17-Oct-13 13:12:53


Did you move from out of London? I am making a film for the BBC with Evan Davis about people who have been priced out of London, i'd be very keen to speak to anyone whose experienced this in the last couple of years.

Thanks a lot


MegBusset Thu 31-Jan-13 07:44:49

Norwich is fantastic and has loads going on but it's not the slightest bit like London. I moved here from London two years ago and am just about getting over the culture shock grin

PrincessOfChina Thu 31-Jan-13 07:19:39

I would choose Sheffield or Birmingham.

I grew up just outside Sheffield and its a fab city. It's grown up so much in the last 10 years or so too and seems to be a really fun place to live.

Birmingham is my home now. I would never have expected to end up here but I love it.

Mosman Thu 31-Jan-13 02:22:57

Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool!!!

Assuming you don't need a local job of course, unless you work in the public sector but even they are becoming quite scare.

kissmyheathenass Wed 30-Jan-13 23:24:03

Right then - thanks everone
these are my shortlisted places - have spent hours googling, on zoopla, rightmove etc. How the bugger did we manage before internet?

Liverpool (lovely school, St Michaels, in Crosby, does that count?)
Sheffield - thanks for list Mumzy
Newcastle becuase I love the Geordie accent most of all
Leeds - my young, gorgeous cousin lives there and will hate me for stalking him and ruining his crred
Birmingham - have to convice dh on this one but I think it looks great.

Ridersofthestorm Wed 30-Jan-13 22:20:26

Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool!!! Great city, great nightlife, full of life and energy. There are some great places to live too it's not all poor and run down. If you like bohemian bars and restaurants on your doorstep try lark lane/Sefton park area (ten min drive from city centre too).

lalalonglegs Wed 30-Jan-13 22:12:59

None taken smile. The common is weirdly flat and uninteresting, there are lots of wealthy people who live in their own little self-regarding bubbles but they're generally ok once you get to know them. And you can learn a lot about pointless house improvements living in this area grin.

FlouncingMintyy Wed 30-Jan-13 22:03:59

Yes, definitely feeling jaded about ED! Not offended at all grin.

Lala - There's just so much traffic and too many Hooray Henrys in Clapham. And, sure, there is the common, but its not exactly charming is it? Just a huge flat piece of grass bisected by roads. But, no offence (as my 9 year old ds would say!).

Southeastdweller Wed 30-Jan-13 21:40:27

New overground line is fine but problem is is that it doesn't go through central London.

Levantine Wed 30-Jan-13 21:26:03

I get where you're coming from mintyy, I feel like that about east dulwich a bit - I think you have similair views, don't meant to offend. I would hate to leave in that between the commons bit, but I really don't think the rest of it is that bad.

ladywellian I am roughly a neighbour of yours, but I kind of agree with lala, though the east London line is tube like enough to feel okay

MissBetseyTrotwood Wed 30-Jan-13 20:44:48

I'd move back to Manchester in a shot. Except all our family are around London.

lalalonglegs Wed 30-Jan-13 20:42:59

Blimey Mintyy, I live in Clapham and, while I don't think it's all that (definitely not as great as the property prices would imply), what upsets you so much about it? It can definitely be a bit smug but it's/we're not that bad grin.

LadyW: I think the train times are a bit misleading. I've just looked on the rail website and there are four trains an hour at this time of night from Brockley, there are probably more likely to be at least 10 or 12 from Clapham North. The underground is more reliable than the overground - I have rarely known a train go straight into a major railway terminus, there is usually several minutes a couple of hundred metres away waiting for a free platform especially during rush hour.

FlouncingMintyy Wed 30-Jan-13 19:53:09

Clapham is everything I hate about London (and I have lived here all my adult life). It would be bottom of my list of destinations ... yes, even after Newham or Deptford or Dollis Hill or any of those other zone 3 no-mans-lands.

Southeastdweller Wed 30-Jan-13 19:23:50

ladywellian I think it's because Brockley feels suburban whereas Clapham definitely does not.

FlouncingMintyy Wed 30-Jan-13 16:41:05

(Apols for further thread hijacking but just wanted to thank LadyW for the fab links! I love the Christmas house! Am thinking of moving from ED.)

Have you had any further thoughts op?

Nancy66 Wed 30-Jan-13 14:47:59

that's not a part of Clapham I'd want to live's either just behind or part of a council estate were there is a lot of gang crime/trouble.

LadyWellian Wed 30-Jan-13 14:14:25

I'm not quite getting why Clapham North (zone 2, 14 mins to London Bridge) is seen as central whereas Brockley (zone 2, 8 mins to London Bridge) is seen as the suburbs.

I'm rather impressed with whatmatters's Marylebone flat, though. I could definitely handle a morning run round Regent's Park rather than (my beloved) Hilly Fields!

Levantine Wed 30-Jan-13 13:51:43

I wouldn't have thought you would do much better than whatmatters flat in Clapham North. I would prioritise location over period/kerb appeal. We rented a big victorian house in a not great part of zone 3 I thought it was miserable.

DewDr0p Tue 29-Jan-13 22:37:17

OP I suppose Liverpool is a bit wet but significantly less wet and cold than Manchester ime grin. It very much has its own sense of identity and people really are very friendly.

Going by our local news, gun crime seems to have subsided massively in Nottingham in the last few years but I know what you mean!

whatmattersmore Tue 29-Jan-13 21:47:53

I have to admit I share the opinions about being in the London suburbs - it seems to be what most London families do, but it's definitely a different lifestyle than being in zone 1/2. I've always lived centrally so I've got used to the small flat/no garden way of life - and I'd always rather take that over a bigger house out in zone 4/5. You can adapt your way of living pretty well, even with more kids and the need for office space.

I'd go for something like this or this. It's not to everyone's taste but it depends what your priorities are.

Southeastdweller Tue 29-Jan-13 19:23:55

I agree with lalalonglegs about being out in some of the suburbs. We rent in zone 4 in a shithole area and when we move won't be coming back. It's a faff getting to and from further parts of the city (especially west London), there's nothing to do locally, and the anti-social behaviour from people here is horrible. Naturally it's relatively cheap - on a 350K budget you could easily get a four bedroom house here - but then as I've learned the hard way, rents and property prices aren't plucked out of thin air...

lalalonglegs Tue 29-Jan-13 19:09:38

Ooooh, that first one is amazing. Wishing I lived in FH envy.

LadyWellian Tue 29-Jan-13 18:59:05

lalalonglegs I know what you mean about the main roads, though they have knocked down the estate and the school is now a 'co-operative' academy with fairly reasonable results. I wouldn't personally choose the Shooters Hill area but on the other hand, it's a pretty decent-looking 5-bed house overlooking a green space for £340k!

Mintyy, I'm sorry I haven't had as much time to look for you as I might have liked, owing to a work crisis hard on the heels of the very boring meeting.

Still, this looks really lovely (perhaps just my taste!), though I can't help feeling it's a tad overpriced. It'd be a shoo-in for Forest Hill Boys, though, which may be good for you.

This is detached - pretty rare - and has a gigantic hallway (nice for a Christmas tree) but some of the bedrooms look a bit small.

Leftfield alert: this one is completely about the location. It is definitely not a bargain.

Not much going in Brockley; this is best viewed as a project, though it's well inside your budget, so lots left over for renovations.

I was looking forward to this given your fairly generous budget, but there's not a lot out there at all (unless you want to move to East Dulwich, where it seems prices have dropped sufficiently that there are quite a few 4+ bed places within budget). Ask me again in a couple of months!

(Sorry for the derail, heathen, I know nowt about the North!)

mumzy Tue 29-Jan-13 18:47:59

The top Sheffield schools i know of are: Silverdale, Tapton, high Storrs all comps and on the southside of the city. For 350k you can get a 3-4 bed house in the catchment areas of these schools. Good luck with your search

Honestyisbest Tue 29-Jan-13 18:02:20

Buckinghamshire. The fast train to London takes 30 mins!

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