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Spillage21 Tue 15-Sep-09 21:38:58 moving back to the village that I grew up in. We need to register DD for primary school (to start in September '10 for yr 3). However the village school and all the schools in neighbouring villages are CofE and requesting vicars letters to support the applications.

Whilst I was away, has Kent suddenly become all god fearing?

Any tips (apart from go to church [shudder emoticon]) gratefully received!

pluto Tue 15-Sep-09 21:44:45

Can you be a bit more specific about where in Kent? It's a very big county!

Heated Tue 15-Sep-09 21:48:10

If they are all CofE then presumably they must also take children of other faiths and of no faith?

Spillage21 Tue 15-Sep-09 21:54:36


ReneRusso Tue 15-Sep-09 21:57:42

Its so wrong isn't it? However, just because its a CofE school doesn't mean that they select all kids based on faith. There will be a list of criteria eg, children with SEN, followed by siblings, then kids whose family worships at the church, then kids based on nearest to school etc. Obviously it would help you if you go to church, but it shouldn't be necessary.

Spillage21 Tue 15-Sep-09 22:05:26

We might get a sniff based on location (as we'll actually live in the village).

Still not going to church tho...wink

foofi Tue 15-Sep-09 22:08:34

I think lots of people 'tick the box' even if it doesn't really apply to them.

silverfrog Tue 15-Sep-09 22:17:21

when i was looking at Goudhurst school a couple of years ago faith wasn't an entry criteria.

proximity to school was the main point then, as well as siblings.

applications to Goudhurst come from quite a wide area, and there are a number of other primaries with similar intakes (and the neighbouring villages didn't require church attendance either)

ingles2 Tue 15-Sep-09 22:21:40

I'm nr Tenterden and yep, most of them are CofE. I've never been asked to supply a vicars letter and would refuse being an aetheist.
I'm not sure they can ask that of you actually as the school is your local village primary and will be the school offered by the LEA.

pluto Tue 15-Sep-09 22:25:41

I live in TW but I would be very surprised if Goudhurst required church attendance if it is the only village school. I expect you will be OK as long as there is space in Y3 - as others have said a tick the box approach is probably enough. I think a lot of the primaries around here are C of E but that's a legacy thing rather than an active connection with participation in the village church??

poppymay Wed 16-Sep-09 12:49:22

My daughter goes to groudhurst school and I didn't need to provide a letter from the vicar but you did need to tick the faith box on the application form, otherwise you were bottom of the list!

As far as I am aware you do need a letter for colliers green.

MarmadukeScarlet Wed 16-Sep-09 12:58:22

OOHH look all the Kentish netters creep out of the woodwork!

<waves to ingles and silverfrog> <small hijack, SF NEWSFLASH have been offered 30hours at my choice of school!! faints clean away>

I got married in Goudhurst church, the old vicar was lovely (as was his wife) he told stories about his well endowed DD streaking topless across the pitch during a particularly dull cricket match at Lords.

Head at Colliers Street (is that where you mean poppy?) is a good chap from what I remember.

Do Kilndown still have a primary school?

Horsmonden is good too.

SouthernMeerkat Wed 16-Sep-09 13:05:30

My DS missed on a place at a TW primary school last year because I didn't tick the "religion" box even though we were well inside the catchment - I was advised that it's mandatory if you want a place, even if you aren't remotely religious. As we weren't living in the county until JUST before we exchanged I didn't get to hear of the local ins and outs of the application process. Sounds similar if slightly more 'Goddy' in Goudhurst if you need a vicar's letter.....

silverfrog Wed 16-Sep-09 13:11:59

<MS, that is brilliant. Still waiting here... but have a meeting on Friday with EP, and next week a review at school. we think we have proved that dd1 needs consistent 1-to-1 support; all last year at school, dd1 said not a word. didn't engage, etc, etc. NB this is at highly specialised ASD school. This year, from day one (so can't be put down to settling in), dd1 is chatty, involved, engaged, laughing and joking with staff. the difference? we have re-started her ABA home programme. dd1 is in a new class, with different teachers, and a very different set-up, but is obv happier and more settled. now just need to get LEA to agree with what they are seeing (won't hold my breath)>

not sure about Kilndown primary. I know the old one closed years back, but they may have re-opened. or are they now tied in with Lamberhurst?

Lamberhurst was very nice. If we had stayed in Kent, then we might have chosen Lamberhurst for dd1. Very agreeable head (think she was the old head at colliers Green) who was happy to sign dd1 out of school for any old reason (therapy wise), and was more than happy to have her part time (well, officially full time so LEA didn't get knickers in a twist, but actually part time so we could persue home therapy). Downside is mixed year classes though.

Goudhurst church is beautiful - have many memories of freezing half to death there during carol concerts etc!

MarmadukeScarlet Wed 16-Sep-09 18:13:44

I know the woman who runs the toddler group if you have a younger one.

<return hijack, SF good luck, fingers crossed. Am still going to tribunal, no OT, SALT or Physio provision detailed in Part 3 <bangs head against wall>>

Spillage21 Wed 16-Sep-09 18:30:33

Goudhurst church is lovely: I always said that I wanted to get married there (tho ended up in Hackney Registry). I also remember freezing Midnight mass following on from session in the Vine. Anyone found the pirate grave in the churchyard??

MarmadukeScarlet, thanks for offer, DS is my youngest. Toddler groups are well behind me (I hope).

Really looking forward to going back. DS who is Lewisham/Hackney bred cannot wait!!

All the schools in the immediate area have good reps and oversubscribed by sounds of it. A friend is moving back to Lamberhurst and has been told it's unlikely they'll have a place for her daughter. Will just have to keep respective fingers' crossed.

MarmadukeScarlet Wed 16-Sep-09 23:19:38

How long since you last lived there?

grin @ the 'I hope' - never say never, you do not know what trouble a bottle of cab sav will land you in.

Spillage21 Thu 17-Sep-09 18:11:46

Moved away as a teenager (to another 'hurst) in the '80s.

MaramdukeScarlet, cab sauv or not, I am well protected!! [watch out for post in few months of failed contraception...]

MarmadukeScarlet Thu 17-Sep-09 19:45:48

LOL @ future failure prediction

You might know my DH then...everyone and theri dog knows my MIL. Did you go to nursery school there by any chance.

Spillage21 Thu 17-Sep-09 21:06:28

I think we arrived in town in '75 (from miles away - Horsmonden) so went straight to primary school (before it became luxury homes!). Who's your MIL - gimme a clue? My Dad was often in the various am dram events...

silverfrog Thu 17-Sep-09 22:15:12

d'oh! MS - the penny drops! Now I know why yor name was familiar...

I went to a toddler group run by, I assume, your MIL.

I only went a couple of times, as was right back pre-diagnosis for dd1, and it was a bit raw to see her alongside other toddlers doing so much more than her when I was being fobbed off with lots of "oh, she'll be alright" and "she'll catch up soon enough" form the docs...

small world, huh? smile

MarmadukeScarlet Fri 18-Sep-09 00:17:02

Oohh I was in the drama group, but between 93/4 and last thing was 04. But Spillage, my DH is ancient grin and was about to sit (and had already sat some of) his O levels by the time you arrived - he was fairly notorious though hmm one of only two punks in the village.

SF, LOL a small world indeed - there ain't many of us around! (Thank god!) yes, indeed t'was my MIL. How many years ago was it out of interest, at the hall or a different venue? D'ya know I avoided toddler groups for the same reason, until the neurologist informed me that was the reason DS was so far behind his peers...

silverfrog Fri 18-Sep-09 08:47:42

Ooh, it must have been when dd1 was about 18 months old, I reckon, so about 3 1/2 years ago. At a different (very beautiful) venue.

Hmmm, got me thinking now. I'm sure it was before dd2 was around, so def more than 2.7 years ago.

I always knew dd1 was behind her peers, and only really went to toddler groups because the hv and paed recommmnended them. My ideas of being a parent were laways of the baking together, making own play-doh, having great times doing craft stuff at home lentil-weavery type blush blush <hollow laughter>

tbh, it was the best way to make sure an out-of-their-depth first time mum who was increasingly thinking that everyone thought she was neurotic (I was fobbed off with "isn't she beautiful" and "gosh you are lucky she sleeps and eats so well - most mothers have a really hard time with those things" for years!) felt really down...

I remember your MIL being great though - dd1 wandered around, not interested in any activity, and randomly taking stuff off shelves and dropping it on the floor while I hastily tried to tidy it back up again blush and she didn't mind at all. Then I foolishly listened to the paed's advice again, and put dd1 into nursery for a couple of mornings a week, and that opened a whole other can of worms...

MarmadukeScarlet Fri 18-Sep-09 11:41:13

She used to try and get me to come to the weds morning toddler group, but I avoided as I just didn't do peer groups - what a pity I didn't go, we could have had the 'different' children together!

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