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How many parents will start kids in Parkour/Free running and martial arts lessons early in prep for dangers in teens

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Informer2 Fri 28-Aug-09 20:47:07

How many parents will start kids in Parkour/Free running

Examples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jquXcwooV6A&mode=related&search=

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and martial arts lessons early in prep for dangers in teens and tlaking 'serious not sporty martials arts'

The idea being they can learn and develop their body to escape if possible with by teen years almost 'super human' agility and if can't 'take out' attackers armed with knives without hesitation by teen years?

thegrammerpolicesic Sat 29-Aug-09 00:20:30

Are you a journalist researching an article Informer? Sorry to be blunt but that's what this sounds like.

Quattrocento Sat 29-Aug-09 00:23:14

Oh yes of course

Do you think it would be helpful to send them to school armed? Just in case things look as though they are getting out of hand in the playground?

wotzy Sat 29-Aug-09 00:33:04

Im stone cold sober and I have no idea of what any of this means. I not a ninja, I have not trained my dds ninja escape techniques. I must be a failure. I'll tell dds to run very very very fast. and make no eye contact. That should work.

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:14:02

not a journalist

Wotzy

the poitnof mentioning martial arts like krav maga & ninjitsu over say

judo

is Judo is about wrestling with rules, likewise katate.

If you kid ends up under attack those safety rules are not there, you have to fight dirty and effectively

So its a simple case of doing the equivalent of looking up a which magazine review of whihc are the most effective martial artsd much like whihc is the best phone on the market.

Krav maga being the martial art used by the FBI, CIA, Isreali army, police and specail forces, tested on terrorists in modern day situations kinda proves it er actually works resonably well whilst

Marquis of Queenbury rules such as no punching below the belt wont help when some nut job has you in a neck lock and their buddy is about to knife you as they think you dissed them as you looked at them upset when they were picking on some old lady.

Likewise Ninjitsu was used by smaller people, sneaky, underhand and very efficient, covering break falls also comes accross as effective.

Parkour is basically 'professional running away' combined with climbing, how to jump from heights, accross big gaps etc.

Its not a case of pass or failiur... in real life especailly nowadays its likely that you kids can get themselves into the kind of trouble where pass or failure is

Pass live or fail and die or end up crippled possibley with a slashed up- face for life

Id rather avoid a kid being armed... certainly no knife as a knife is not an effective means of self defence its an attacking weapon.

the difference is if you you stab somone odds are they wont notice for a while and it wont stop them... they may die of loss of life of organ failure in 20 minutes or more during which time they can make micnemeat of you.

Whilst something like a taser or pepper spray you would nutralise them instantly withtou doing perminant damage enabling you to run away.

However its unfortuneate that many of these gang types wont leave it at that and then get on their phone to get armed mates to come and get you or if they cant find you anyone from your neighbourhood will do so sometimes horribly as it may sound the only thing you can do is kill them so they cant come after you.

As the kind inot respect, turf and gangs is not really human just an evil scumbag who only exists to hurt others

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:17:59

im glad my mind doesnt hink that way

prepare your children for being attacked hmm

ds1 does parkour - monkey boy. is v. dangerous and i don't like it

annh Sat 29-Aug-09 09:20:26

Informer, you have started a very similar thread about stab-proof body armour, even worded in the same say? Are you a bit obsessed with the "dangers" facing our children at school? Where do you live - Beirut?!

sprogger Sat 29-Aug-09 09:20:36

I have considered this, yes. But I live in SE London where there is perhaps a heightened concern about knife crime.

I do think that the benefit of martial arts is more from the regular exercise (both physical and mental) than from the likelihood you're need to use it defensively (even where I live), and I would be happy for my children to study them when they're old enough.

Parkour I'd like them to do because it's just so bloody COOL. I'd like to be able to do that myself. grin

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:21:54

* Parkour I'd like them to do because it's just so bloody COOL. I'd like to be able to do that myself. *

me too plus gives kids the chance to prove themselves and look cool so less likly to get bullied and no need to do drugs to appear cool

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:23:06

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By annh Sat 29-Aug-09 09:20:26 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

Informer, you have started a very similar thread about stab-proof body armour, even worded in the same say? Are you a bit obsessed with the "dangers" facing our children at school? Where do you live - Beirut?!

Actually Beirut is probably safer... there its the odd terrorists

here its children going around with knives who kill you for looking at them in a way they dont like or simply as you live on the other side of the high street in a different postcode

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:24:47

no need to take drugs to appear cool if you can jump from one building to another

no thats right

ffs

parkour is dangerous leaping from building to building and dangling precariously from ledges 3 stories up

just bllody stupid not cool

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:25:53

no one is walking around my town with knives ready to get all 'gangsta' on yer arse for lookin' at 'em the wrong way bruv innit.

PuppyLoves Sat 29-Aug-09 09:26:34

The dangers facing our children as teens is quite serious. I'm surprised more people are not taking the rise of gangs and knife crime more seriously.

I will be encouraging dd to take part in something that would help her if she were ever caught in a nasty situation.

Its common sense IMO.

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:27:33

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By custardo Sat 29-Aug-09 09:17:59 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

im glad my mind doesnt hink that way

prepare your children for being attacked

ds1 does parkour - monkey boy. is v. dangerous and i don't like it

So is snowboarding but the golden rule is

You start small and work your way up slowly so in order to be good by teens when you will need it you start young.

It also makes you safer in that you can land from a great height without getting hurt and climb and do acrobatics better...

Plus it helps you stay away from crime and drugs and alchol as a kid giving natural highs and enabling a kid to prove themselves withtou having to take drugs, drink or say joyride or shoplift to appear cool.

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prepare your children for being attacked

yes in the same way you teach your kid to swim, teach fieldcraft and outdoor survival, fire safety, not to pat dogs who are foaming at the mouth, that poloar bears aint cute and cuddly but eat on sight

etc etc

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:29:28

By custardo Sat 29-Aug-09 09:25:53 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

no one is walking around my town with knives ready to get all 'gangsta' on yer arse for lookin' at 'em the wrong way bruv innit.

Lucky you... not all are so lucky infact few nowadays are realy pity maybe if the cops had not cracked down on hippies, ravers and work places did not have a problem with heavey metal hair cuts most kids would be nice

but we have to prepare kids for the real world they are likly to come accross

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:33:09

mine grew up on a council estate - they can all handle themselves - which isnt the point

some people dont have to handle themsleves the country is not ridden with gang banging teenagers.

what you are suggesting is that parkour is a 'diversionary activity' for teenagers.

what i am suggesting is that there are better ones than jumping off pissing buildings

even if you started them at 5

now snowboarding - fine

we have been snowboarding - which as a diversionary activity is fine

my boys skateboard - that fine - they fall they break something they don't die

they fall from a building they die.

whilst nothing is totally risk free comman sense tells me that skateboarding/bmxing has a lower risk factor than jumping from one building to another

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:33:10

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By PuppyLoves Sat 29-Aug-09 09:26:34 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

The dangers facing our children as teens is quite serious. I'm surprised more people are not taking the rise of gangs and knife crime more seriously.

I will be encouraging dd to take part in something that would help her if she were ever caught in a nasty situation.

Its common sense IMO.


* Since when did your average parent operate on common sense???? *

More like stick head in sand and imagine they live in lala land...

You know the one where they think their kids wont go through puberty if they dont let them see nudity or get sex ed lessons.

The one where they think that 17 year olds have no interest in alchol, drugs or the opposite sex and prefer playing with dollies and teddy bears.

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:34:44

becuase it's cool

pmsl

am having doubts that your a mum

theres not a mum on the planet thinks that letting their kids jump from building to building is a 'cool' activity for their kids to be doing

its dangerous

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:35:16

most parents operate on common sense

jesus

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:41:01

Cusardo imsuggesting Parkour as both a diversary activity and a survival skill.

Also a sport that conditions their body in a way that goes far beyond your average sport.
Effectively giving them abilites normally associated with superheros.

Its very funny how you think snowboarding is safe and parkour is not... you actually seen snowboard videos where they are doing jumps off cliffs and spinning in their air.

Teenagers like and infact need risks to stay sane and prove themselves.

be it parkour or going back in time, slaying dragans, lion hunts, running with the bulls, etc.

Certainly boys as its how the males prove themselves to gain dominance and impress the ladies.

Plus its how teengers clear stress.

You cant keep your kid safe forever trying to do so either smothers your kid driving them to drink or other way of dealing with the stress of not fitting in and developing or will drive them away when not ready.

Or leave them vunerable and nable to deal with life.

Or mean they are too scared to live life and grown up with no confidence

You as a parent need to prepare them for what life can throw at them so they can handle it and have the confidence and ability to be successful and find more practical and better ways to channel their need for kicks thrills and to prove themselves and destress or they will find far more unsavoury ways.

or end up these very messed up individuals who go pscho and shoot up a school or something

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:44:29

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They fall from a building they die.

Whilst nothing is totally risk free comman sense tells me that skateboarding/bmxing has a lower risk factor than jumping from one building to another

They dont have to but it helps to have the ability if one day you may need to.

Its the same skill regardless of the drop... you dont have to do it from high up.

It may be getting out of a burning building, not just fun or avoiding a fight.

Likewise the same skills would teach good break dance moves so may not have to try the building problem.

It may also enable them to help others in trouble.

A skill is a skill how you use it is up to you

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:44:33

we have been snowboarding - which as a diversionary activity is fine

they didn;t jump off cliffs ffs.

my boys skateboard - that fine - they fall they break something they don't die

they fall from a building they die.

whilst nothing is totally risk free comman sense tells me that skateboarding/bmxing has a lower risk factor than jumping from one building to

you have a lot of teenagers do you?

i find the premis that boys have to do an extreme sport to keep away from drugs and knife crime ....and also to prove themselves in an alpha male way....laughable.

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:45:10

if you fall from 5ft

its not the same as falling from 40ft ffs

Tortington Sat 29-Aug-09 09:45:55

the skils you use to land safely at 5ft not the same as trying to land from 40ft.

you cant land from 40 ft

you just get seriously injured or die.

Informer2 Sat 29-Aug-09 09:51:21

Cust

incidenly you seen bmx motor cross they jump pretty high

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By custardo Sat 29-Aug-09 09:35:16 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

most parents operate on common sense

jesus

REALLY? whihc is why most I came accross all thought their teen daughters had no interest in boys or drinking and thought their little darling can't possibly be the one who seduced the boy as she wanted to get felt up whilst snogging it must be that the boy is all preditory with a one track mind nonsense

As daddies little girl must age 17 is all sweet and innocent and her nickname 'vacume' must be as she is good at cleaning...

Likewise the one that only bad boys who have been badly brought up have any interest in photos of girls with no clothes on age 15... Mummys little boy Jonny would never want to kss and touch up girls... all the teen girls must be sluts who have not been brought up right who want to currpt mummies little boy who likes nothing better then Worhters Origonal sweeties.

And similar head in the sand parental nonsense

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