whats the symmptons of 'dyslexia'

[mysonsmummy]

thats it really thanks.

[mysonsmummy]

anyone?

[TinkerBellesMum]

For a child (age?) or adult? The quick test for an adult to see if they need to be tested properly is below.

Can you answer Yes to five or more of these:

When writing checks/cheques, do you frequently find yourself making mistakes?
When using the telephone, do you tend to get the numbers mixed up when you dial?
Is your spelling poor?
Do you mix up dates and times and miss appointments?
Do you find forms difficult and confusing?
Do you find it difficult to take messages on the telephone and pass them on correctly?
Do you mix up bus numbers like 95 and 59?
Do you find it difficult to say the months of the year forward in a fluent manner?
Did you find it hard to learn your multiplication tables at school?
Do you take longer than you should to read a page of a book?
Do you find difficulty in telling left from right?
When you have to say a long word, do you sometimes find it difficult to get all the sounds in the right order?

[TwoPumpkins]

When i was tested for dyslexia (as an adult) it was the difference between my intelligence (high) and ability with symbols (low) (letters for example but also numbers and sequencing and things like that). So if plotted on a graph some things would be high and some low. Spelling and reading speed and comprehension and things like that would be lower than general knowledge and IQ type tests. The IQ doesnt have to be high, just to be a noticable difference from the ability with symbols.

Is it yourself or a child you are worried about?

[TwoPumpkins]

For me, I still dont know my times tables, I take ages to work out bus times and the London Underground takes ages! I have to think before saying which is left or right, every time, even tho I am 36. I also reverse words, beddytear instead of teddybear.

I have noticed dd1 doing the word reversing and am keeping an eye on her.

[TinkerBellesMum]

You sound a lot like me My reading and writing is really good, I'm even good at maths, but my speaking is terrible! I do all the normal dyslexia (or what's thought of as normal for dyslexia) things when I speak, I mix up opposites (he says she says type of conversations I lose the plot very quickly), mix up random words, swap words around, lose the train etc I also seem to think a lot faster than my mouth can talk. I was 23 when I was tested and that's only because the uni likes to keep it's disability quota up by testing art students for dyslexia (they were being told off about it while I was there because they need to look across courses so it's probably changed). Through school my parents were told I was very clever but lazy. It makes me angry that I could have done so much better at school/GCSE's if they had take the time to test me. I feel there is a real gap area that people who can read and write are being neglected as lazy. Even on the BDA website there is nothing about it.

[maverick]

Have a look at
Is my child dyslexic?
www.aowm73.dsl.pipex.com/dyslexics/is_my_child.htm

Should I have my child assessed?
www.aowm73.dsl.pipex.com/dyslexics/should_I_have.htm

[FabioCatello]

Tink you sound dyspraxic too.

I'm dyslexic but like Tink not typically - handwriting is shit but spelling not bad. I answer yes to fewer than 5 of the questions.

I would add a link here but my feckin internet connection is about to go. Grrrr...

[Overmydeadbody]

There are lots of symptoms of dyslexia, and you don't have to exhibit all of them to be dyslexic.

The main thing that differenciates dyslexia from global delay or low ability is that 'intelligence' or IQ are higher than reading and writing would indicate, so there is a discrepancy between the child's verbal abilities and their reading and writing, if that makes sence. If a child's IQ matches their poor reading and writing then they aren't dyslexic, they just have a low IQ.

In adults it is a bit different, and often harder to spot as the person in question has had a lifetime to develop coping strategies to overcome the problems dyslexia throws up.

[christywhisty]

Can I ask everyone who answered 2 questions (apologies to OP)

1. Does anyone have word finding/retrieval difficulties ?

1. If you have spelling problems, can you spell the word out loud but spell it wrong on paper?

[TinkerBellesMum]

1. Does anyone have word finding/retrieval difficulties ?

Yes, I can sit for ages trying to find the right word when I'm typing and will say "erm..." a lot trying to find the right word.

1. If you have spelling problems, can you spell the word out loud but spell it wrong on paper?

No, I do the opposite. I can't spell words unless I write them and if I was to spell a word out that's in front of me I will change the letters around.

[TinkerBellesMum]

Never thought about dyspraxia before, don't really know that much about it, but reading the website I can see that I do have some tendencies.

My motor skills aren't really a problem, although I get some that are linked with Hughes Syndrome (it's a complicated disease as it crosses over into everything else) such as reacting to supermarket lights making it hard to move around supermarkets and my hand-eye coordination sucks when I'm shopping, I'm convinced I picked up the 4 pint bottle next to the 2 pint, but it was the 2 pint or that I've picked up OJ but really got the grapefruit that was next to it.

Speech problems all seem to fit me.

Eye problems, yup.

Perception, some of it.

Learning, thought and memory, yes.

Emotion and Behaviour, yes.

Emotions as a result of difficulties experienced, yes.

OK, so between Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Borderline Personality and Hughes Syndrome, I'm just a total mess!

[TinkerBellesMum]

But, getting a more logical hat on, I think those are all syndromes and all cross over into each other. It's possible because I've got the Hughes that crosses over into everything else and one or two of the others it just makes this mash of things going wrong.

Do I sound desperate?

[CuppaTeaJanice]

Is dyslexia hereditary? Just wondering because DP is borderline - is it something I should look out for in DS?

[TinkerBellesMum]

It's supposed to be, my brother is dyslexic and we think my dad is. Also on TBD side he is, his brother is and my DSS is.

[christywhisty]

DH would have been diagnosed today as dyslexic, he didn't learn to read until he was 10. DS is dyslexic although reads well, but he was taught synthetic phonics, but has problems with spelling.
He told me recently he sometimes has word finding difficulties, which I do.

[mysonsmummy]

thanks everyone - its for ds 6. just cant understand why he is struggling so much . will get school to check for me. thanks again.

[mysonsmummy]

thanks everyone - its for ds 6. just cant understand why he is struggling so much . will get school to check for me. thanks again.

[TinkerBellesMum]

I think 6 is still a little young for diagnosing. I've just been looking for symptoms at that age and no one will list them. I think you probably need to give him until the next school year and see how he gets on.

[TinkerBellesMum]

Just found this for preschool indicators - I know he's past preschool but it will help give you an idea:

Pre-school.

Has persistent jumbled phrases, e.g. 'cobbler's club' for 'toddler's club'
Use of substitute words e.g. 'lampshade' for 'lamppost'.
Inability to remember the label for known objects, e.g. 'table, chair'.
Difficulty learning nursery rhymes and rhyming words, e.g. 'cat, mat, sat'.
Later than expected speech development.

Pre-School Non-language indicators.

May have walked early but did not crawl - was a 'bottom shuffler' or 'tummy wriggler'.
Persistent difficulties in getting dressed efficiently and putting shoes on the correct feet.
Enjoys being read to but shows no interest in letters or words.
Is often accused of not listening or paying attention.
Excessive tripping, bumping into things and falling over.
Difficulty with catching, kicking or throwing a ball; with hopping and/or skipping.
Difficulty with clapping a simple rhythm.

[Flamebat]

DD ticks a lot of that list TBM. I have been wondering about her lately - silly not to add another thing to my list to worry about

Sorry for crashing, but one thing I have noticed with DD is with her keywords - she'll read the letters like "r-a-n" and then say "anr" . I dunno if that is a normal learning to read thing though.

Will make an appointment with her teacher tomorrow - I have too many worries swirling around.

[TwoPumpkins]

We do sound the same, except Maths is a bit of a blank for me. DH cant understand why I get stressed cooking either, but so would he if he had to re-read the instructions every two minutes and they looked different every time!

[TinkerBellesMum]

I'm great with maths as long as I don't transpose digits! I seem to be cross dominant (use different sides for different things) so probably explains why I'm good at maths and creative things or an artist who works in politics!

[TwoPumpkins]

1. Does anyone have word finding/retrieval difficulties ?

I am generally verbose so have lots of alternatives to hand, but on occasion am totally stumped for the right word. I think it happens more than I realise as my 4 year old now automatically fills in the gap for me I am better with longer more unusual words and bland on shorter everyday words. Same for spelling.

1. If you have spelling problems, can you spell the word out loud but spell it wrong on paper?

I am more likely to get it wrong out loud, and if I write a word the chances are I dont see the mistake. I hate to look at old posts here as I often spot really obvious mistakes that at the time, (even with the extra careful proof-reading I have learnt to do), my brain doesnt recognise.

I was an early talker and walker, as are both my children. They both transpose words. I will be keeping an eye on them both. hths.

[TinkerBellesMum]

Oops "as long as I don't transpose the digits".

TwoPumpkins, I'm the same, it's the obvious words I struggle with more than some of the harder ones. I suppose mid-range words, if that makes sense, not normal everyday words (although they can be a problem sometimes) but the normal not so everyday words - like I couldn't think of "opposition" earlier.

Got to say I love the Google spellchecker! I don't know where I'd be without it.

[mysonsmummy]

yes thank you - the teacher didnt seem to think it was that at all.

somethings just not clicking. i can teach him his spelling twice a day for the week. on the morning he knows them and gets them wrong in the spelling test. if i dont do them one day hes completely forgot them again

ive not done enough at home with him but am on top of it now. really dont think its as simple as that though.