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Year 6 sats

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Nextsale Thu 02-Oct-08 19:05:59

If predicted to get 3 5a in year 6 sats should of gone for 11 plus havnt too late now

clam Thu 02-Oct-08 20:57:51

As long as s/he got 5c across the board in Year 5.....

smartiejake Sat 04-Oct-08 11:41:29

Not necessarily. 5 of my dds friends got 5a in all three subjects at the end of KS2 and were top of the top sets. Despite cramming for the 11+ for 2 years did not get offered a place at grammar school.

However 2 of her other friends who were in set 3 Maths and set 2 english (out of 5 sets) got 5c and 5bs in their SATs and sailed through the 11+ with much less cramming. Success in SATs does not always= 11+ success.

Lots of success in SATs is down to learning facts and vocabulary rather than showing reasoning skills and initiative which 11+ tests rely on.

SqueakyPop Sat 04-Oct-08 12:28:18

Are you just having a whinge, NS, or looking for info?

I would say that the 11+ tests are totally different from SATs. Obviously there is a correlation of who does well on one will do well on the other, but it is not 100%. Good performance in the SATs tests can be a factor of the intensity of the preparation in Y6. For example, my DD's former primary had a record year in their SATs, because they upped the focus on them - prior to that, they pretty much ignored them until a week or two before. I wish they had ignored them, because I think DD was short-changed on the quality and depth of her education.

For 11+ tests, they are checking mainly reasoning skills. You can only practice up to a point (familiarisation is good, but beyond that it is diminishing returns).

This is not to say that your DD would not have done well in the 11+ - if she is predicted a high performance in SATs at this stage (before the intense preparation), she is clearly very bright. Why did you not put her in? Are you just outside the catchment area for Grammar schools, where you would be expected to go for comprehensive so 11+ not standard for everyone?

I know that you can do 12+ and 13+ for grammar schools, in recongition that places do come available (families move) and also that some children mature a bit later. If you are seriously interested, check out all your options.

roisin Sat 04-Oct-08 14:20:27

3 x 5a is highly able though. I would have thought if a child is capable of this they should be capable of 11+.

At the school I work at (state secondary - we don't have grammars in this area) in the past 3 years we have had 1 child (out of 600) who has had 5a in all 3 subjects, and he is an exceptionally able child.

Nextsale Sat 04-Oct-08 17:32:15

Did not want to do 11plus as did not want to put too much pressure and would only of cosidered if thought would of had a real talent and would of sailed through your info has been helpful and i think i did the right thing. Can always go in 6th form if does really well at gcse

SqueakyPop Sat 04-Oct-08 17:36:15

My DD got 3 x 5a

kiddiz Sat 04-Oct-08 17:45:55

How would you know if you dc got 5a or 5b or whatever? I was only ever told dd got 3 x 5 in her last report from primary in July. Not really that worried as she is doing fine at high school (attaining level 6 maths after 4 weeks in her new school.) but curious why we weren't told.

Nextsale Sat 04-Oct-08 17:50:43

How r they doing at secondary we are going to a comp who do have an a stream and we will monitor work might look at 12plus we are a working class family and were concerned about them not fitting in at grammar

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