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childs reception school report vvvv negative and bad. Need a plan of action for Sept, advice please girls.

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deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:31:29

The jist of the report is that he has zero attention span, is "disruptive not only to himself but other pupils too".
Disrupts lessons allot
wont join in with gtoup work
shows no interest in anything unless he wants to do it.
will need to learn to behave appropriately outside of classroom and with other teachers.

I was not aware of any of this due to there bieng zilch communication with teacher UNLESS i asked why is his name on the punishment bourd...which was about 4 times over the academic year. Even then, not told any thing in depth or to make me seek out action plan.

so Sept plan:
1) meet with new teacher tell her of previous issues.
2) ask for regular communication with herself re ds's behaviour

what else do i need to do?
What if he has fallen behind? she said in the report that there was no way of asessing his abilities due to his "lack of commitment"
BTW he only turned 5 2 weeks ago sad

CarGirl Tue 29-Jul-08 16:34:07

don't worry about if he's "fallen behind" where they are academically is not really relevant in reception/year one, finding out if there is a reason behind his "disruptiveness" is more important such as does he lack concentration and if he does is it mainly due to being so young etc?

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:36:45

do you think i should seek an appointment with his last teacher in Sept?
im not sure how helpful it would be you see, i just wish that she had spoken to me through the year thats all.

LIZS Tue 29-Jul-08 16:37:50

If he is disruptive to the point of disturbing the others and not learning himself then you could ask to see the school SENCO with hsi new teacher. Ask if he can have an IEP to agree specific targets for him to work towards and give you a clear picture as to how they propose to help him such as using a reward scheme you can reinforce at home. There may well be system of small group work in year 1 to enable him to catch up at his own speed, along with other younger and less motivated children.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:38:08

she also sais on one occasion that he lacks "maturity" i took that to mean that he was a very young 4 year old in the sense of developement etc

MamaGLovesMe Tue 29-Jul-08 16:38:39

This is so sad

Why they have to make kids go to school so young is beyond me.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:38:47

whats SENCO? IEP????

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:40:13

IEP....Individual learning plan im guesing, but SENCO...not a clue

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:42:03

hmm, special educational needs co ordinator perhaps???

one to one might be the little encouraging boost that her needs to find his feet.
dont want him labelled either you see as difficult etc

LIZS Tue 29-Jul-08 16:47:18

SENCO is the Special Educational Needs Coordinator who oversees the progress of any child who is referred to them by teaching staff, be their issues mild or marked, temporary or long term. Being referred internally does not necessarily lead to assessments , diagnoses, labelling etc but can enable the child to access small group work out of the immediate classsroom environment, specific literacy and numeracy schemes and even one to one sessions.

IEP is an Individual Education Programme(iirc), basically a document with a series of specific targets which are usually behavioural and academic related, measurable and time bound so they can be reviewed as the child makes progress. It should be agreed between the teacher(s), SENCO and parents , and child if appropriate.

hth

Littlefish Tue 29-Jul-08 16:47:29

Deanychip, you have every reason to feel cross. I am a former reception teacher and I make it a rule that nothing in a school report will ever come as a surprise to a parent (unless it's an extremely positive surprise!) and make sure that any concerns I have, have been shared with parents at the earliest possible stage so that we can work together on strategies that we both know might work at home and school.

This report shows a terrible lack of communication on the teacher's part. Was anything said at the parents' meetings over the course of the year?

I would suggest that you organise a meeting with both last year's teacher and this year's teacher together. Make it clear that you are prepared to work with the school to support your son at school, but that you must have regular communication with them in order to do this.

I expect that last year's teacher will already have spoken to this year's teacher, but I think it's important that you hear what last year's teacher has to say, so that you can find out why she didn't share her concerns with you.

hanaflower Tue 29-Jul-08 16:47:36

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CarGirl Tue 29-Jul-08 16:48:32

My dd2 was on the SEN list because she was introvert and spoke very little and had speech delay, this meant she got an IEP, I meet with the teacher once per term to discuss how she was doing etc. In year 1 she came off the SEN list.

I do think it would be helpful to chat with his old teacher to ask if she thinks it's just immaturity or something more than that.

I know it's not nice to think your son may be "labelled" but it could be something very simple - how's his hearing? It could be a range of things or just that he's young.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:52:44

Littlefish, please dont get me wrong im not cross with her, she was a lovely lady i am just sad.
At parent teacher meetings, she had said that she was not concerned about him, that he was initially like a whirlwind (bearing in mind, he was only 4 a month pror to starting big school) but that he had settled.

ok, so i need to speak to both teachers and together we nead to form a plan.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 16:54:25

i have always had behavioural issues with him unfortunately.
hearing is fine, sight is fine.

Whizzz Tue 29-Jul-08 16:56:26

Why don't you try the reward/star chart thingy over the hols - then he can get used to it &hopefully you & new teacher can use it together in Sept

elkiedee Tue 29-Jul-08 17:01:43

Could you contact the head about some of these issues? Clearly you care and want to help him get on better at school, but it seems a bit ridiculous to put things in the report that haven't been brought to your attention earlier.

Perhaps the school's management could help you and/or his new/old teacher to work out what the action plan should be.

Littlefish Tue 29-Jul-08 17:03:06

Whether she was a lovely lady or not Deany, a report this negative is not helpful. It labels him negatively for behaving in a way which may simply be age-appropriate for a child who is only just 5 and not ready for an environment which is overly formal. It may be that this age-appropriate behaviour way may not suit her style of teaching.

If she had not mentioned any concerns at parent teacher meetings, why are they suddenly so important that they need to be in his report.

Littlefish Tue 29-Jul-08 17:04:45

Ok - a slightly different slant if you have also been having behavioural issues with him at home. Are the school aware of this? Are they aware of the strategies which do and don't work at home?

CarGirl Tue 29-Jul-08 17:04:56

is it dyspraxia that causes poor concentration? Could be completely wrong, but one of dds classmates has one to one support "because he finds it tricky concentrating" (as reported by dd) and I know his behaviour is challenging from when he's been to our house.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 17:06:06

Star charts have always worked well in the passed and i have always used them as a positive reinforcement of good behaviour.

My first move is clearly to meet and communicate. I feel that this problem is not mine alone, as it is not the schools problem alon, we need to tackle it together.

They highlighted the problems yet have offered no constructive solutions. Suggestions like " he will have to learn to concentrate" are no helpful are they to any one.

CarGirl Tue 29-Jul-08 17:06:22

TBH I'd rather that my child was discovered to have SEN and then labelled and given appropriate support than be labelled as disruptive to the class!

I do think the teacher has let you down by not discussing this with you earlier in the year.

hana Tue 29-Jul-08 17:07:47

I don't see any sense in speaking to his old teacher.
I would see the new teacher but give it a few weeks - maybe even until the first parent-teacher consultations (usually early in October?)
the summer will make a difference
his age will make a difference

and see how he gets on

I wouldn't go to head just yet, were you not given opportunity to speak to teacher about the report before the end of the term?

LIZS Tue 29-Jul-08 17:09:04

no that isn't helpful, which is where an IEP can useful because it gives everyone a clear idea as to what is expected, when and how it will be achieved . Even if it is to focus for 5 minutes during circle time to begin with.

deanychip Tue 29-Jul-08 17:10:29

Yes littlefish, i have spoken to her about my anxieties over his behaviour and have highlighted that i have always found him to be difficult.
Perhaps she didnt want to worry me with it.

When his name has been on the naghty bourd previously, i have told her that i would speak with him, and if necissary take something off him if his behaviour persists.
Thinking about this at home, i have a fundamental problem with punishing him at home for what he has done at school, effectively twice for the same crime.
This too i discussed with her.

I dont know, i am totally crestfallen and saddened for my boy.

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