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DS2 made to fish bottle out of school toilet as punishment

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citylover Fri 11-Jul-08 12:38:22

DS2 is in year 2 and he and a friend put a plastic bottle down the toilet, think his friend then went to the toilet, other kids told on them and they were rightly called to account.

As punishment they were made to fish said bottle out of loo (with latex gloves on).

I am really uncomfortable with this type of punishment and have made my concerns known.

In addition my DS has quite serious anxiety issues around using school toilets which I have been trying to overcome over the past few months. The school are aware of these.

My family, and a childless friend think this punishment is fine ("well he won't do it again will he") which made me think perhaps IABU.

However my gut feeling is it isn't the right way of handling it and crosses a line.

He is generally a well behaved child at school - his teacher confirmed this the other night.

MamaG Fri 11-Jul-08 12:39:59

I think that as he and the friend put the bottle in the loo, it is right that they got it out, wearing latex gloves.

dilbertina Fri 11-Jul-08 12:41:02

Who better than him to fish the bottle out? They ensured no danger with gloves - seems perfectly reasonable to me.

choccypig Fri 11-Jul-08 12:41:08

Don't see the problem myself. Latex gloves make it perfectly clean. I wouldn't even consider it a punishment, it's just sorting out your own silliness.

DumbledoresGirl Fri 11-Jul-08 12:42:34

Sorry, citylover, another one here who thinks that is a perfectly reasonable thing for him to be asked to do (wearing gloves).

moopymoo Fri 11-Jul-08 12:43:40

think this absolutely fair enough and crosses no lines. agree, not even really a punishment, more a lesson in actions-consequences.

MsDemeanor Fri 11-Jul-08 12:45:00

Absolutely fair. Hardly a 'punishment' at all IMO. Just putting right something they'd done wrong.
He clearly doesn't have that much anxiety around the toilets if he's putting stuff in the loos to be naughty!

MsDemeanor Fri 11-Jul-08 12:45:31

And who do you think should clear up his mess? His teacher? Why? he's not a toddler.

cockles Fri 11-Jul-08 12:48:02

Seems like a perfectly reasonable way of dealing with it and much more of a 'natural consquence' than a punishment, therefore more appropriate than standing in a corner or something.

Yorkiegirl Fri 11-Jul-08 12:48:17

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fluffyanimal Fri 11-Jul-08 12:48:38

I think it teaches him the consequences of his actions. And maybe it might even have a kind of aversion therapy effect on his toilet anxiety - to find that he can touch a school toilet and nothing dire will happen to him.

Mutt Fri 11-Jul-08 12:50:33

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StellaDallas Fri 11-Jul-08 12:52:03

Sorry, I have to agree with everyone else. Perfectly reasonable punishment, IMO.

Twiglett Fri 11-Jul-08 12:52:51

school's in the right on this one

louii Fri 11-Jul-08 12:53:14

Sorry but definately was correct course of action. I have made my child do the same when he deliberately put something down the loo.

Who would you have expected to fish bottle from loo??
He is lucky he got a pair of gloves to do it.

citylover Fri 11-Jul-08 13:07:26

Very interesting. Perhaps I am in a minority of one then!!

Perhaps some of my ex Hs OCD tendencies have affected me !! grin or perhaps we are just too liberal in our approach.

He also did not like it btw.

FWIW I wouldn't make him fish it out at home either!!

Mutt Fri 11-Jul-08 13:08:29

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MamaG Fri 11-Jul-08 13:09:28

citylover if one of my DC (yes even my 4 year old) put something in the loo at home, I'd make them take it out again wearing gloves - without a doubt

charliecat Fri 11-Jul-08 13:10:46

School was right. You wouldnt make him fish it out at home either? Why not?

charliecat Fri 11-Jul-08 13:10:48

School was right. You wouldnt make him fish it out at home either? Why not?

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 11-Jul-08 13:10:53

If he has toilet issues and anxieties, how did you come to be shoving a bottle down the toilet???

I think the school did absolutely the right thing too, btw.

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 11-Jul-08 13:11:30

Sorry - how did he come to be shoving a bottle down a toilet....blush

I know it wasnt you who did it grin

VeniVidiVickiQV Fri 11-Jul-08 13:11:54

Or was it? shockwink

wannaBe Fri 11-Jul-08 13:12:40

spot on punnishment.

why should someone else have to do it?

You're obviously too soft. wink luckily the school isn't.

Family is right - he won't be doing it again in a hurry will he?

snowleopard Fri 11-Jul-08 13:13:18

I think it's great when a consequence really fits the crime like this. having to fish it out is the 100% real and genuine consequence of his actions and if he didn't do it someone else would have to. How better to teach them to take responsibility for their actions?

I don't want to sound too hmm as I don't know all the circumstances, but if he's that worried about school toilets, why was he playing with them and throwing bottles in? School were totally reasonable to think if he could throw it in, he could get it out!

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