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BobTheDuvet Tue 23-Jul-19 17:11:57

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BackforGood Tue 23-Jul-19 23:15:05

Hope she's got a big office, and nothing important she should actually be doing. Good luck with that.

chipsnmayo Wed 24-Jul-19 00:55:28

I remember when DD was at primary, I can't quite remember how it worked (this was years ago) but the kids (and I would say at that age) were made to stay in the classroom (sit on the floor) over break with a teacher if they mis behaved or didn't do their work.

Definitely not in the office though.

Pipandmum Wed 24-Jul-19 00:59:12

Kids in classroom over break time for not doing their homework did the homework, they didn’t just sit there - what’s the point of that? But actually I don’t think they did get detention for not doing homework. They did in senior school though.

HeadintheiClouds Wed 24-Jul-19 01:01:26

Maybe they should do their homework?

sirfredfredgeorge Wed 24-Jul-19 09:02:55

Maybe they should do their homework?

Maybe a 7 year old kid is not in a position to decide if they do their homework or not.

It sounds unlikely that a school would go from optional homework (the sensible compromise between parents who demand it, and schools who have seen the evidence) to homework with punishment. Doing the homework in the break is more likely.

Does the school not publish a homework policy and a behaviour policy? Your question should be answered in there, if it doesn't, challenge the school on that anyway, they really should (legally in maintained schools, as a best practice in academies I believe)

herculepoirot2 Wed 24-Jul-19 12:36:40

Just make sure your kid does their homework and it will never be an issue.

sirfredfredgeorge Wed 24-Jul-19 12:49:38

herculepoirot2 What if you don't agree with homework? Or more importantly probably, what if you feel you should advocate for the children who have completely disinterested parents so won't "make sure" and a detention of the child will achieve absolutely nothing for them, except possibly lowering self esteem, worse health through lack of active play and alienating them from their peers (as they don't get to socialise at play / seen as bad kids)

Punishment for things you cannot control are wrong, they are particularly wrong in schools as those kids with privileged parents will not be suffering them (either because they won't get into the situation due to the parents doing it, or because the parents are there to advocate)

herculepoirot2 Wed 24-Jul-19 12:53:58

sirfredfredgeorge

I see that argument, but you can’t run a school on the basis that children can never be expected to do X in case their parents don’t enforce it. You have to tell the parents to start enforcing it, whether it be the uniform policy, the homework, the reading etc. Some people disagree wth homework - those people should send their child to a school that doesn’t set homework. Some people disagree with uniform - same. The school obviously does believe homework matters, and they are allowed to issue this sanction to make sure it gets done.

BiBabbles Wed 24-Jul-19 13:02:58

Schools vary so widely it's hard to say what's normal. I'd check their website or talk to the school about their policies.

I had detentions at around that age for not doing homework and other things, but similar to what chipsnmayo described, it was in the classroom either during lunch break or before school. The office was only for in-school suspensions used for serious (violent or otherwise dangerous) issues.

BobTheDuvet Wed 24-Jul-19 13:19:38

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herculepoirot2 Wed 24-Jul-19 13:24:41

BobTheDuvet

Not ridiculous at all. The State offers to educate your child for you. You don’t have to take that offer up. If you don’t like the T&Cs do it yourself.

HeadintheiClouds Wed 24-Jul-19 13:34:16

Very odd that someone is taking “well, what if you don’t believe in homework?” as a place to argue from.
The school don’t care. Why should they? Home schooling is an option.

BiBabbles Wed 24-Jul-19 13:40:55

While I agree that detention isn't always an effective punishment (as someone who had dozens of them), schools only have so many options for dealing with kids who break the rules. There aren't really many other options other than continuing to make homework optional which may disadvantage kids when they go to secondary.

BobTheDuvet Wed 24-Jul-19 14:07:52

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BiBabbles Wed 24-Jul-19 14:11:09

Glad you got that clarified, that does sound a lot better and typical.

BiBabbles Wed 24-Jul-19 14:14:07

Also, it is amazing how much things can get altered when it passed along. Even when going through adults sometimes events seem to get very radically changed to unrecognizable, possibly more with kids or when there are several people together.

herculepoirot2 Wed 24-Jul-19 14:19:31

Yes, coz homeschooling is a viable economic option for all...hmm

Then, tough. Just because you cannot afford the alternative doesn’t mean you get to dictate the terms of the option the Government provides. Schools have the right to set homework if they believe it will make learning more effective.

HeadintheiClouds Wed 24-Jul-19 14:28:07

It doesn’t have to be economically viable for all, given that it’s an option for those who want to step outside the system already in place.
It’s an alternative if you’d rather not follow the rules or assume they don’t apply to those who don’t believe in them.
Whether you choose to take the financial hit or not is up to you.

siring1 Wed 24-Jul-19 14:41:30

Speaking as a KS2 teacher, I hate homework in every sense.

However, if a school sets homework then it's just not fair on the kids who do their homework that kids who don't do it get away with it.

I take a somewhat practical approach to keeping kids in to complete it. If child does their homework 14 weeks in a row then misses one I might forget to keep them in. If a kid misses 3 in row then I will ask them back at playtime to catch up.

Homework policies land heavily on kids with the least support at home however relentlessly making excuses for these kids is actually one of the worst things you can do for them.

BobTheDuvet Wed 24-Jul-19 15:33:41

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siring1 Wed 24-Jul-19 15:45:25

We call it homework club - many schools do- it's a lunchtime detention by a different name. At least the kids who do.homework see a consequence for those who don't. Children hate injustice - see no consequences for not doing homework they have makes some kids angry.

Not sure about the legal position of enforcing homwork. I do get annoyed when parents pick and choose which school policies they stick to. Although I do see teachers not marking homework which does give parents a valid right to moan. If schools punish kids for not sticking to the homework policy should parents punish teachers for not sticking to the marking policy?

Sianlouise432 Wed 24-Jul-19 15:57:41

When my primary school got a new deputy head she decided to introduce detention.. Not for homework though. However if you think about it, it prepares kids well for secondary school? I spent almost my entire year 7 break times in denetion for forgetting to get my parents to sign my planner.. If I had detention in primary when I cared more about my break time I might have learnt to skill of remembering 😂

Sianlouise432 Wed 24-Jul-19 15:58:38

Detention* the skill* my spelling went downhill there, I don't know what happened haha

herculepoirot2 Wed 24-Jul-19 16:03:00

If schools punish kids for not sticking to the homework policy should parents punish teachers for not sticking to the marking policy?

Parents punish teachers? I think you may have misunderstood something. Look, it works like this: the children are under the authority of the school insofar as sanctions for not doing something specified by a school policy goes. But the teachers aren’t under the authority of the parents. Obviously, if the school marking says homework should be marked (and it doesn’t always or even most of the time), discuss this with the HOY or the Subject Lead or whoever comes next after the teacher. They will deal with it, not you.

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