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Do children find out classmates Yr 6 Sats result?

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Ihaveranoutofsteam Thu 20-Mar-14 12:11:38

Just curious

Fuzzymum1 Thu 20-Mar-14 12:25:24

They shouldn't be told by staff but the children often tell each other.

HerGraciousMajTheBeardedPotato Thu 20-Mar-14 12:26:10

Of course - they talk to each other.

Ihaveranoutofsteam Thu 20-Mar-14 12:52:53

I am trying to calm down dd about sats as she is convinced she is going to flunk them. I was just going to tell her that other classmates don't automatically find out her result, so it is her choice to tell her friends.

LackaDAISYcal Thu 20-Mar-14 12:56:53

Oh your poor DD, feeling so pressured. Schools have got a lot to blame themselves for over SATS angry

She'll only know if they chose to tell her and vice versa.

Can you try convincing her that SATS are only for schools/ofsted/government and bear no weight when she goes to high school as they do their own baseline assessments in a much more relaxed and natural environment.

Try and take the pressure off her a bit? Difficult if she has a school who are whipping them into a frenzy over it.

PennySillin Thu 20-Mar-14 12:59:57

Ihave we had tears at the breakfast table this morning as DD is really feeling the pressure sad, really sad she is feeling like this. Tried to reassure her it doesn't matter but I can tell she is feeling stressed sad

PennySillin Thu 20-Mar-14 13:01:13

I agree Lacka I feel quite cross with the school, the pressure is certainly on at the moment. I am sure it's not exclusive to our school though, they are only 10 & 11. angry

moldingsunbeams Thu 20-Mar-14 13:04:31

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PurpleAlert Thu 20-Mar-14 13:06:32

Blame the government not the school- they are the ones that have turned our DCs into numbers on a data chart.

Your DD should be reasured that the teacher makes their own assessment too so that if nerves get in the way on the day, her day to day levels will be reported to the secondary school where she goes.

One of my pupils had a panic attack one of his maths papers last year and ended up with a 4a overall. I knoew he was consistently working at at least 5c (and higher) and that was the teacher assessment I gave him.

steppemum Thu 20-Mar-14 13:21:44

I am pretty surprised to be honest at how much sats prep has been done this year. It winds me up, there is constant sats pressure. What about all that fab stuff they used to do in year 6 before sats came along?

weirdthing Thu 20-Mar-14 13:25:22

Don't forget that most secondary schools ignore primary schools' sats data and retest in yr7 for their own data (used for GCSE prediction). I am an ex-teacher and this is precisely one of the reasons I home educate. Most of a year of education wasted on stupid, pointless tests and terrible stress placed onto the children.

LackaDAISYcal Thu 20-Mar-14 13:29:05

Yes, the goverment is to blame, sorry but some schools schools totally buy into it. My DS's HT last year basically said they had no choice but to push the kids in order to get the best results as this would mean better ofsted report and all that that brings.

My DS was really ill with tonsilitis during SATS week, and he dragged himself into school every day as he wouldn't hear of not doing them. He had a total meltdown when it was suggested that he didn't do them, so I picked him up afterwards and took him back home to bed. It went against all my parenting instincts, but the alternatives were causing him too much distress sad

High school told us that they pretty much disregard sats as they have been done in a little bubble.

OldBeanbagz Thu 20-Mar-14 13:45:12

We didn't actually get DD's Y6 SATs results until the start of the Summer holidays last year so the only friends who knew her results were the ones she wanted to share with.

The results had no effect on her high school as they did their own test at the beginning of the term.

Just reassure your DD that the government is testing the school/teachers NOT her.

PennySillin Thu 20-Mar-14 13:47:28

Just reassure your DD that the government is testing the school/teachers NOT her.

Going to try this explanation with DD, she usually loves school but we've had tears & lots of stomach/head aches in the mornings sad

Martorana Thu 20-Mar-14 13:53:07

The problem is that the government has decided that schools must be judged by their SATS results. If they don't do well, they get classed as "requires improvement" and Mumsnetters draw in their skirts and refuse to sent their children there. They can't win.

Feenie Thu 20-Mar-14 17:09:04

But some schools manage to achieve very good results and provide an exciting, broad and balanced curriculum, sometimes in difficult schools. It is possible.

PastSellByDate Thu 20-Mar-14 17:51:56

I agree with a lot that people are writing - your DD is probably picking up on the anxiety the school feels about their results. Most schools try to handle results sensitively - and my feeling is that if children find out how people did it's either through things like awards at assemblies (i.e. a student who achieved NC L6 last year in English & Maths was awarded a prize from the Headmistress for achievement - and to be fair that should be celebrated!) or children find out because people talk about it (other children especially).

My view is this either way DCs win:

if they pass - they're relieved and pleased.

If they don't pass - their new senior school will identify them as someone who will need extra support from the start. At senior school children will have specialist maths, English & Science teachers (etc....) and these teachers will have a lot more subject knowledge than primary teachers and most likely be better able to explain things.

I know it's hard when a child gets wound up about things, but try to persuade her she has nothing to lose and she's done nothing wrong if she doesn't pass. If she's struggling - frankly that's a sign that the school hasn't been working effectively with her.

I suspect the issue is that the teachers are talking about things generally and your DD believes this all applies to her.

Personally pass or fail - tests are useful. They're a point in the process where you can gauge how you're doing - and that's an important process for everybody - your DD, you & her teachers (now & in future). It is just a snapshot and will never totally summarise what your DD can achieve - but it is our only means of determining where she's at as a student right now. Try to encourage her to see it in that light.

Finally - remind her this is nothing. The test she'll really care about is passing her driving test!

Feenie Thu 20-Mar-14 18:01:42

and these teachers will have a lot more subject knowledge than primary teachers and most likely be better able to explain things.

Ridiculous thing to say - many primary school teachers are English, Maths or Science specialists. And why would a secondary school teacher automatically be 'better able to explain things'?

Idiotic post to make on the Primary board ffs.

Ihaveranoutofsteam Thu 20-Mar-14 18:11:03

There is some great advice in all the replies. Thank you! I have told her I am proud of her however she does, as she always tries her hardest in everything she does, except French smile

Shimmyshimmy Thu 20-Mar-14 18:49:47

I've been horrified by Year 6, dc is under huge pressure, they are all competing against each other and despite me saying they don't matter, it makes no difference, the school are whipping up a storm and I can see dc getting more and more anxious about the outcome. No point in speaking to the school either because they are more concerned with the results than the children's welfare...it's that brutal! I blame the Gov but I also blame the school they have to take some responsibility for this mess.

HerGraciousMajTheBeardedPotato Thu 20-Mar-14 18:58:27

"Pass or fail". Argh! There is no pass or fail when it comes to SATs. There is only a "level achieved".

The children should not fear failing, because they cannot fail.

Shimmyshimmy Thu 20-Mar-14 19:00:16

I think they can fail to reach a level! I know my dc will feel like a failure if they don't hit their target -which they are very aware of.

Nocomet Thu 20-Mar-14 19:04:41

We didn't get ours till the very end of term, by which time our lot had done a very elaborate play and spent ages planning their end of term leavers trio and SATs were totally forgotten.

Nocomet Thu 20-Mar-14 19:10:25

trip not trio.

I'm not sure the children ever discussed them, with friends or their parents, I haven't.

DD1's literacy grade may have been leaked by the HT in sure shock, but I'm not worried about that.

Euphemia Thu 20-Mar-14 19:57:58

We don't have SATs in Scotland, and I'm very glad!

DD is in P7 and has had a fabulous year: pressure to work hard, as ever, but no tests.

She's currently picking out her dress for the leavers' party in June, rather than stressing about tests. smile

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