# Talk

## Nc levels end yr 2

(33 Posts)
givemeaclue Tue 04-Mar-14 18:57:31

Teacher says dd should be aiming for level 3 by end yr2. She is in yr1. Not familiar with no levels but just done a google and understand that there are sub levels within each level etc.

Is there a higher level than level 3 that can be achieved by end yr2 or is that the highest?

Thanks

spanieleyes Tue 04-Mar-14 19:00:51

well, there is level 8 but that's generally year 8/9 in secondary school!

Tue 04-Mar-14 19:00:57

Why is she talking about the end of year 2 halfway through year 1 I wonder? I don't really understand this system but my DC is in y1 and apparently is currently a 2a heading for 2b so I guess he could reasonably be expected to be a 3 something by the end of y2. I THINK she said there were 3 levels in each year so 1 a b c, 2 a b c etc

spanieleyes Tue 04-Mar-14 19:02:13

You can't be a 2a heading for 2b as 2a is higher than 2b!

mrz Tue 04-Mar-14 19:03:23

Forago if she's a 2A heading for a 2B he is regressing are you sure that's correct?

CocktailQueen Tue 04-Mar-14 19:05:51

At the end of Year 2, children are expected to reach a 2B (the levels go 1c, 1b, 1a, 2c, 2b, 2a, etc.)

I have no idea why she's telling you this when your dd is in Year 1!!!! FFS. School is supposed to be fun and children aren't supposed to know what level they're on. They're far too young for such pressure.

Some children may reach higher levels than 3 by the end of Year 2, but ime not many.

Have a look at www.devon.gov.uk/fostering-national-curriculum-levels.pdf as this sets it all out clearly.

mrz Tue 04-Mar-14 19:13:08

Since levels won't exist after September 2014 it's a bit pointless to predict

Perpelxedandoverwhelmed Tue 04-Mar-14 19:18:46

What's happening to the levels after September, mrz? How will they be assessed?

grownoutofglitter Tue 04-Mar-14 19:23:00

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mrz Tue 04-Mar-14 19:23:12

schools will be free to adopt their own systems

givemeaclue Tue 04-Mar-14 19:46:57

Ok as the levels will be extinct I won't bother thinking about it anymore!

Cocktailqueen, I asked beacause teacher mentioned it today and g was unfamiliar with it. Seems like a reasonable enough question!

TheGruffalo2 Tue 04-Mar-14 19:52:09

Current year 1s will be the last cohort assessed under the old (current) curriculum criteria for End of Key Stage One in summer 2015. After that ... no one knows what assessment across the school will look like!

ThisSummerBetterBeDarnGood Tue 04-Mar-14 20:03:52

Tue 04-Mar-14 22:51:22

It might have been 2b heading for 2a does that make more sense? hes in year 1 doing fine but nothing exceptional, above average but hes a september birth. Its the first I've heard about it at a 10 min parents evening and then it was someone else's turn!

CocktailQueen Tue 04-Mar-14 22:54:30

Mrz -both schools my dc are at will continue to use the NC levels after Sept.

Tue 04-Mar-14 22:58:30

My DC school and the school I am in are sticking with NC levels. Won't affect me in the school as I am in reception.

mrz Wed 05-Mar-14 06:39:24

The problems with that CQ is that the levels don't match the content on the new National Curriculum.

mrz Wed 05-Mar-14 06:39:39

of not on

CocktailQueen Wed 05-Mar-14 11:41:04

Mrz - But don't schools have more freedom to choose their own curriculum after September? So they could choose to stick with this year's one rather than change it? In which case the current NC levels would still be relevant?

(I wish Gove would stop mucking around with the NC and just allow teachers to teach.)

tess73 Wed 05-Mar-14 11:54:49

If the teacher is telling you that what she is basically saying is your dd is doing very well and will achieve above expectation next year.
Our school give these levels at yr2 SATS|:
Level 1 (essentially there's a problem we need to work on)
Level 2c (slightly below where they should be)
Level 2b (spot on at this stage)
Level 2a (very good)
Level 3 (well above where we expect them to be at this stage).

In DD2's class 4/30 received all level 3's, so not many. This is a primary which gets 75% at level 5 in yr6.

Floggingmolly Wed 05-Mar-14 11:58:08

What will happen to Year 6 SAT's, does anyone know? How will they be graded?

givemeaclue Wed 05-Mar-14 12:32:58

Will there still be sats in year 2 when the nc levels end and what time of year are they please

CocktailQueen Wed 05-Mar-14 12:37:04

Our school will still be doing SATs in Year 2 next year. SATs are in May; ds's class has been doing old practice papers for the past few weeks.

Feenie Wed 05-Mar-14 12:49:37

Which is against rules, which clearly state children are only to complete one test.
Tests can be completed at any time of the year and are a small part of the teacher assessment.

tess73 Wed 05-Mar-14 13:08:09

Our tests in yr 2 are just before May half term. They are marked by the teacher but any level 3's given out have to be checked / paper reassessed by the yr3 teacher. Makes sense, those getting 3's are expected to get 5's in yr6 so they're not given out too easily.

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