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Calling KS2 English SATS experts...

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Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 14:23:26

My DD was given a Reading Comprehension test at school that is clearly a photocopy of a SATS answer booklet. We were given a copy of the booklet to look at but since we weren't given a copy either of the reading booklet or the answers it is rather hard to understand the marking.

I have googled like crazy but cannot find it. The titles are: Night Life - Animals that come out at night, Night Arrivals, Sleepovers. Does anyone know where I can find a copy? Or does anyone have one?

bamboostalks Mon 10-Feb-14 14:25:49

That is not a Year 6 SATS booklet that has been published in the last 20 years as I have copies of all of them.

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 14:28:00

Ah. Year 5?

bamboostalks Mon 10-Feb-14 14:35:22

Well possibly but if so it is ancient. The last official Year 5 published was 'Footprints in Space.' Are you sure it's not just from published WH Smith's etc material?

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 14:41:08

Does WH Smiths material look identical?

In previous years I have always been able to find the booklet and answer key by googling - the teachers lift the tests straight off the internet.

bamboostalks Mon 10-Feb-14 14:47:35

Well, it can look very similar, it may an NFER one. Can't you ask the school?

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 14:50:36

The school doesn't want to give it to us. We know why (political marking).

bamboostalks Mon 10-Feb-14 15:01:15

What is political marking?

ItStillLooksLikeRainDear Mon 10-Feb-14 15:21:12

A company called CGP publish practice papers, it could be one of those?

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 16:37:20

Political marking = marking to make certain pupils or sub-sets of pupils look better than others so that the teachers look good. Ie not using the same marking standards across the board.

Sleepyhead33 Mon 10-Feb-14 17:51:14

I have been a y6 teacher for years and never heard of political marking. I honestly don't know what you mean.

I haven't heard of the booklet either but it definitely isn't a past SATs paper (or past optional paper that I can remember).

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 17:55:24

It must be a French thing! Sadly all too common here.

missmapp Mon 10-Feb-14 17:56:03

Could be a cgp booklet. Political marking is a ridiculus idea- how would it help anyone, the may sats are externally mark so any 'group favoured' marking would soon show up.

As yr6 teachers, we mark fairly and despair support each other, not try adn play one upmanship with diff grps.

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 17:56:59

Everything is done internally at DD's school - curriculum design, teaching, testing and marking are all a black box. Bad news.

TheRoadLessTravelled Mon 10-Feb-14 20:08:05

I'm fairly sure it's a KS1 paper. Level 2-3. But I can't find it.

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 20:14:24

It's definitely not a KS1 paper - it's way harder than KS1.

mrz Mon 10-Feb-14 20:16:38

It's definitely a Year 2 SATs paper Bonsoir

mrz Mon 10-Feb-14 20:18:52

Sorry should read the whole thread ... the KS1 SAT paper in Night not the rest

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 20:20:23

It's one booklet though, with four sections - the final section has questions on all three texts.

bamboostalks Mon 10-Feb-14 20:28:46

I think that nocturnal animals was a writing task for 2009 in KS1.

Feenie Mon 10-Feb-14 20:32:33

Last official y5 was Changes, which superseded Footprints in Space. Not that it's at all relevant smile

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 20:40:53

See - I knew that there were all these über knowledgeable people on MN and you are proving it! Which is why I am baffled at not getting to the root of this.

The level of difficulty of the questions in the booklet is definitely Y5 or Y6, not below.

Feenie Mon 10-Feb-14 20:56:47

Never heard of it - and I would have said I know them all.

Would agree with others that it's probably CPG - they do look very SAT-y.

MissBeehiving Mon 10-Feb-14 21:04:19

I have a CGP ks1 paper with Night Creatures and the Owl Child in it.

Bonsoir Mon 10-Feb-14 21:07:36

I'm sure you do know them all, Feenie. So I shall take your word and assume that, unlike previous years, this is not an old SATS paper downloaded off the internet but has been conjured up from a paper source.

Thank you everyone smile

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