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Morebiscuitsplease Tue 01-Oct-13 18:49:10

My DD2 is very tired at the moment. Her teacher did say she is working them hard. So much so I am finding it difficult to read with her in the evening. She has bedtime stories but am very reluctant to read with her when she is tired as it is hard work and not enjoyable. Mornings we seem to have little time. Last year I read with a Y1 pupil and have asked to do the same this year with her. Reading as soon As she gets to school after the walk to school will mean she is fresh and ready to go. As this will be the only time she reads individually I feel I have no choice as at school they only read in a group. How do other parents manage. I strongly believe that regular individual reading practice is essential to learn to read well.

SizzleSazz Thu 03-Oct-13 09:57:21

Beauchamp - I said getting to school early and finishing it in the car, meaning when you are parked up and waiting for the doors to open.

3birthdaybunnies Thu 03-Oct-13 09:41:16

Although Beauchamp clearly you can't tell cause and effect from your observation. Both dd1&2 have struggled with reading and have gone through phases where they refuse to read at home because they found it too hard after a day at school. It has taken them a lot of mental energy to learn to read. Even now with dd2 I will have to nag her no end to read. The parent volunteers/staff were v supportive and we have edged them along through reading levels.

Ds is only just 4, reading comes really easily to him, he can blend long words, he remembers red words easily and although their phonics only covers basic sounds he has now learnt through reading more complex phenomes such as ng, sh, ch, th, ing etc. He brings reading books home from nursery and he always reads two or three books every day from there, then starts on our own mini library of reading books. He has been known to read 5 books in an afternoon. In one week he will easily read 10-20 books (red/yellow)- that would be about half a term's worth for the girls. When he does read he reads enthusiastically and without studying cobwebs on the ceiling. Clearly his reading is progressing much faster and his reading record is already filling up. The difference is he begs to read and then wants to read more.

It is not always due to not having the opportunity to read at home, some children love reading and want to get there faster than others. Thankfully dd1 is fairly fluent now and enjoys it. Hopefully parent volunteers haven't judged us too harshly for not filling the girl's records every night, they will maybe never need to read with ds.

Beauchamp Thu 03-Oct-13 08:57:59

I helped in school for a 4 years, mostly in years 1 &2.
You could see the difference between the children who read most nights and the children whose diaries were marked infrequently.

Even if your child is read with in school, it won't be very much. probably max 10 mins a week and more likely to be just 5 mind per week.
More able readers tend to get less help at school - so maybe 5 mins per month.

Beauchamp Thu 03-Oct-13 08:47:35

How does it work teaching a child to read in the car? How can you follow the text and help if you are behind the wheel?

Periwinkle007 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:41:24

I am still surprised they don't listen to them.

Morebiscuitsplease Wed 02-Oct-13 22:28:00

ShoeWhore I find that she is quite wired in the evenings and whilst in bed is not going to sleep...had this when she started school. Some mornings she has not got up till late and frankly there is not a lot of time....
Immediately after school is not good as she wants to play and as they have very little play in Y1 I feel she needs that. Also she does have activities twice a week....
I know the importance of reading regularly, it would help if they did listen to them read individually at school.

3birthdaybunnies Tue 01-Oct-13 23:10:06

I found it really hard listening to my eldest two, mornings are fairly manic and we don't drive to school so can't sit in the car. We have varied from just after school to bedtime. Never found a time to suit them tbh. It's better with ds as he has started early so I can listen to him when the girls are at school. I think though a lot of it is to do with motivation. He will demand to read even when he is really tired and has already read a couple of stories. The girls will try to dodge it on a Saturday morning when they have had a good night's sleep and a promise of a trip to the park as soon as they've finished. Not sure how to tackle the motivation though.

freetrait Tue 01-Oct-13 22:53:39

Definitely important to be positive, shouldn't be a battle. Also important if possible to do it everyday- well that equals the best progress, providing first point is observed! I would work on getting the routine but not worry too much about how long or what she reads. So if she is really tired just read one page, or a few sentences. Then gradually when the habit is there you can build it to a bit longer.
Am just starting to listen to my 4 year old read each day. She prefers reading at bedtime where all is quiet and focused. Oh yes, make sure it is not too hard- start with something well within her grasp when you are trying to establish the habit. 4 year old is on easy books that she enjoys so that's easy, and nearly 7 year old can read well so we just do what we feel like re him reading, but do some most days.

ShoeWhore Tue 01-Oct-13 22:38:15

Maybe the answer is to try to tackle the tiredness and bring bedtime forward a little until she is more used to being back in the swing of school?

I'd get up 10 mins earlier tbh and do reading in the morning if you can. Or could you squeeze it in straight after school or while you are making dinner?

NightLark Tue 01-Oct-13 22:32:12

which was a shame, as getting DC to read anything at all was an uphill struggle, made far, far worse when he began to fall behind all his classmates in the competition for being a 'gold' reader, 'diamond' reader etc etc.

Ferguson Tue 01-Oct-13 22:30:42

If you have the time, by all means support reading in class if the teacher is happy for you to do that, but work with other children besides your own.

Twenty-five years ago, when our DS started Reception, I was a 'parent helper' one morning a week, for five years. I also did gardening activities with Yr6 and ran an after-school keyboard club with Yr6. In other schools I went on to be employed as a TA for twelve years. One of my earliest 'readers' turned up again seventeen years later in her final year of Teacher Training! So you never know what the future holds . . .

NightLark Tue 01-Oct-13 22:30:37

No, not banned the stories, just banned giving any kind of credit / making any kind of record in reading diaries of DC reading anything that wasn't a banded reading book.

Morebiscuitsplease Tue 01-Oct-13 22:21:53

We have lots and lots of books and both love stories. (I work in a library smile will keep trying, we did manage some tonight. Just feel it is important to keep it positive. Her reading isn't bad, but I know it is my input that makes the difference.

Periwinkle007 Tue 01-Oct-13 22:06:26

Abby I think the teacher banned writing down reading cereal packets and leaflets in the notebook not banned bedtime stories although I did misread it myself first.

AbbyR1973 Tue 01-Oct-13 21:56:40

Night lark... Seriously? A teacher banned bedtime stories??? Unbelievable. I would be furious and then totally ignore it. Why on earth would any sane person ban a bedtime story, and what business does any teacher have telling you want you can't do with YOUR children in YOUR time? Seriously?
Grrrr.... It's got me cross just thinking about it!!confused

grumpalumpgrumped Tue 01-Oct-13 21:15:17

We read in the mornings as I am not home until 7, and DH has severe dyslexia so cant help in the evenings.

ChocChaffinch Tue 01-Oct-13 21:15:06

nightlark - that's sad they banned it as IMO every bit of reading counts, dd now 7 is fascinated with lists of ingredients on jars & packets,

my ds, age 5 is not as enthused about reading as my dd but we treat library books as a special treat, I lay them on their beds and they rush up after school and leaf through,
with him he reads a short chip and kipper tripey book then picks his bedtime story, he LOVES being read to,
I agree reading to them is crucial, using diff voices and lots of expression, and taking time to check understanding, discuss topics, notice unusual punctuation
I also read my books a lot in front of them, 7yo will ask what my book is about, I also get her to read the paper occasionally,
It is v difficult to fit in so reading is bedtimes here, they read 1st then we read to them, if theyre really tired we just cut their bit shorter. with after school clubs, swimming etc etc the week is quickly eaten up

Beauchamp Tue 01-Oct-13 21:14:06

kilmuirs - it is a pleasure! Ds2 is upstairs right now reading. Both Dc love books and pretty much always have.

by to exhaustion, I don't mean until they collapsed! Only until they were finding it hardgoing.

NightLark Tue 01-Oct-13 21:05:20

I found this almost impossible tbh.

3 DC, plus working 3.5 days a week means mornings were a frantic rush of shouting at everyone to get dressed and out of the door for drop off with childminder (school age) and nursery (pre-schoolers * 2). Evenings, I picked up at 6, bedtime was at 7 for the little ones, by the oldests Y1 bedtime at 7.30 he was far too tired. Add a reluctant (boy) reader into the mix and it was a disaster.

We read at weekends, I carried on doing bedtime stories and (until the teacher banned us from doing this in Y2) I gave him reading credit in his diary for every back-of-the-cereal-packet/information leaflet/noticeboard he read. Then we were told only to note down banded reading books and we gave up as there was no way he could meet their targets.

kilmuir Tue 01-Oct-13 21:03:07

beauchamps that sounds awful.
Reading should be a pleasure,

AbbyR1973 Tue 01-Oct-13 20:58:04

DS's both read to me before dinner time if I get home from work in time, or sometimes just after dinner. We do it before going upstairs to get ready for bed. I then read each of them a bedtime story in bed. I treat reading to them entirely separately to them reading to me. Occasionally if we have been pushed for time, dS 1 has read to me in the car when we are travelling somewhere, but he is essentially an independent reader in the sense of not needing help decoding words.
DS's are year 1 and reception and are quite tired, but also fairly enthusiastic backed up by a positive motivational system (bribery!)

Beauchamp Tue 01-Oct-13 20:00:23

I used to sit on the sofa every evening with my arm around my 5 year old. They'd read to exhaustion or the end of the book with me gently prompting when they needed help.
They both learned from a standing start to being free readers within 6 months.

BrianTheMole Tue 01-Oct-13 19:59:58

Its much easier in the mornings, 5 to ten mins max.

SizzleSazz Tue 01-Oct-13 19:58:49

Completed in the car

SizzleSazz Tue 01-Oct-13 19:58:23

How about getting to school 5 mins early and reading in the car or sat on a bench. Fewer distractions and as you say she will be ready to go for the day at that point.

My dd1 (yr2) wants, and has always wanted to, read when she gets in from school. Dd2 (yr1) would prefer to read in the mornings after breakfast. This is sometimes c

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