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Teachers - pls look at this spelling and tell me if it is indicative of probs???

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miemohrs Thu 29-Aug-13 22:50:59

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lougle Fri 13-Sep-13 22:47:53

As I said, if you had posted as pindorasbox from the beginning, I would have PM'd you and said 'hey, it's Miemohrs, isn't it? What's going on here?' The fact that you posted as Miemohrs led me to the conclusion that you weren't 'hiding'. Of course I now know that it was a failed namechange.

I'm glad he is having a better year. I do think that you know this school will never give your DS the support he needs regardless of how well his needs are identified though. All the time you are at this particular school, any help is going to have to come from you.

I do empathise. DD2 has some issues which have so far not been seen in the same light. I have realised that I can't wait for school to 'catch up' so it's down to me to sort the issues out, despite having quite enough to be getting on with myself.

These years are the foundation building blocks - it isn't going to be so easy to put things right later on.

Theas18 Fri 13-Sep-13 22:25:13

Can she hear ok? Missing high pitched end consonants look suspicious.

pindorasbox Fri 13-Sep-13 21:54:33

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lougle Thu 12-Sep-13 16:38:59

You know I don't consider you a troll, Miemohrs. I couldn't understand why you were using the same name but posting as if your child was female. It confused me and I couldn't see a logical reason. If you had namechanged (as you have now) and then described your child as female I would have understood. In fact a SN poster did just that once and I alerted her by PM that I identified her, because she hadn't changed sufficient details.

"I am a person in a difficult position who isn't able to move her child as quickly as you would like." Absolute rubbish. I don't care how quickly you move, or if you move at all. What I find disingenuous is that you post as if these issues are a minor disagreement with your child's current school when you have posted extensively about the damage they cause your child, the trauma your child faces on a daily basis and the hostility with which you are treated.

You've seen that it was you who linked your usernames - I would never 'out' someone publicly. You say 'how do I know what your situation is?' I was referring to the school situation, not your personal situation, because this is not about you and your situation. It is about your DS and his situation. It's not you that has to face this trauma on a daily basis, is it?

I do know your RL details, actually, as it happens. You gave them to me. I would never disclose them to another person though.

pindorasbox Thu 12-Sep-13 16:06:17

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LeoandBoosmum Thu 12-Sep-13 15:52:12

BTW, why is the school objecting to the use of overlays?! What century is this school in?! Overlays have been known to be very helpful. I think it might be time to start making a fuss! The school seems to be set on doing all they can to hinder your daughter. As others have said, if she does have dyslexia (sounds like it tbh) it needn't impede her! Others are right when they say those with dyslexia tend to be brighter and more intelligent than average.

LeoandBoosmum Thu 12-Sep-13 15:48:03

Miemohrs, don't worry about the thread going awry. The important thing is that you get some help. I really do hope your daughter can get some real assistance. It's obviously getting to her. If the school won't actively help you can complain to the LEA. Really press home the urgency of the problem. Explain that you are concerned she will fall further behind her peer group and she's already exhibiting low self-esteem. If the school can't or won't supply extra help then the LEA may be able to provide some real dedicated help (you may be able to push for a peripatetic who is trained to help in such cases). In the meantime, whatever you can do yourself but keep it lighthearted as she's clearly feeling very sensitive right now. This is probably making her feel isolated from her peers and she may have even come in for a bit of bullying from them... Good God, if the teacher calls your lovely DD 'stupid', s/he'd probably not do anything to stop the pupils doing likewise. Your DD is fortunate to have a mum who really wants to help.

pindorasbox Thu 12-Sep-13 14:49:26

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LeoandBoosmum Thu 12-Sep-13 14:24:22

*phonic work, not words.

LeoandBoosmum Thu 12-Sep-13 14:23:27

Just flitting back and forth...a teacher has actually told her she is stupid? That is worthy of serious complaint. I would be livid if a teacher said that to my child. There are no stupid children, just stupid teachers! Grrr...
I would think - even with all the upheaval - of getting her into another school ASAP! Could you get in touch with your LEA or visit a few schools in your area to see if they could better address your daughter's needs? It sounds like her current school is actually damaging her self-confidence!
For now, give her lots of reassurance and focus only on learning one or two words at a time. I think she may be overwhelmed. If she's having a hard time and her self-esteem is low then a list of ten words is going to be daunting!!
If all is well with her hearing, could you maybe do some simple phonic words at home? Work on listening words, pronouncing them etc... Above all, try to make it fun and give lots and lots of praise throughout, put homework etc to one side if she is having a really difficult time (but on the understanding she will have to come back to it later that day), offer lots of support and don't be tempted to do more than she's capable of (keep it to one simple task for a short period).

LeoandBoosmum Thu 12-Sep-13 14:15:26

2kids makes such a great point! Have her hearing tested. It could be that she is not hearing the words properly to begin with.

lougle Thu 12-Sep-13 14:13:13

I totally missed that gymboywalton

pindorasbox I apologise for referring to the 'OP' when you are the OP. I should have been saying 'you' not 'the OP'.

gymboywalton Thu 12-Sep-13 14:09:52

pindora's box?? why are you answering as two different people?

lougle Thu 12-Sep-13 13:58:52

pindorasbox are you trollhunting a trollhunter? confused Isn't that against the talk guidelines?

I was asking why the OP has referred (consistently) to her 'DD' when in fact the child is a DS. I can't see what may be gained from that. It is confusing.

The OP has had support and advice over a long period of time. The situation hasn't changed in that time and will not change. I can't see what can be gained from trying to define the exact nature of a child's difficulties whilst all the time staying in a place where those difficulties will not be acknowledged or tackled.

pindorasbox Thu 12-Sep-13 13:41:26

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lougle Thu 12-Sep-13 11:59:41

Why are you referring to your DS as a DD?

Is he still at the same school? Why are you fighting it when you know that they are never going to accept your DS's issues? You've tried this school twice. Nothing is going to change.

You can't make the school give your DS intervention. You've tried and they won't. You either have to do some stuff yourself or move him.

Honestly, Miemohrs. I know this is stressful but how much of your child's life is going to be spent with you anxiously asking the same questions in different parts of Mumsnet when all people can say is 'that's terrible'?

pindorasbox Thu 12-Sep-13 11:09:01

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AnotherStitchInTime Sat 31-Aug-13 17:29:33

I think that if you do not intend to move her from the school then a strongly worded complaint to the head/governors/education department/ombudsman (if all else fails) is in order.

The school doctor is not a specialist, the specialist has said she needs them. FGS kids are teased for all sorts of things, but if they need glasses then they need them, surely they don't take other children's prescription glasses away?

They sound like they are actively doing everything in their power to not support her and give her a statement. angry

The British Dyslexia Association helpline might be able to help you with fighting the 'system'. You need a paper trail and maybe even legal advice. There are some very knowledgeable parents on the special needs board here that might have more advice, you could also post in legal matters to see if anyone there has advice.

miemohrs Sat 31-Aug-13 17:12:12

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Cheryzan Sat 31-Aug-13 09:34:00

Knowing she is dyslexic will help - so tell her she is. You don't need to pay an ed psych to tell her that. You can.

If she needs coloured overlays, can I recommend you play Engaging Eyes. It corrects convergence problems which may be the reason she needs coloured overlays.

hillian Sat 31-Aug-13 08:32:10

have you heard the term dual or multiple exceptionality (DME)? Its when a child is both gifted and has a learning disability.

AnotherStitchInTime Fri 30-Aug-13 23:21:20

Did they suggest different colour overlays for different tasks? If there is a particular colour that might be better for her you will be able to get glasses with a tinted lens.

TBH if the school is that un-supportive I would be looking to move her to one that can support her needs. A professional has decided use of overlays would be best for her. The school should be taking that advice and implementing it, every child matters should be part of their ethos.

miemohrs Fri 30-Aug-13 22:30:40

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hillian Fri 30-Aug-13 22:15:03

have you considered dysgraphia? The type with spelling difficulties as well as handwriting difficulties.

HumphreyCobbler Fri 30-Aug-13 21:53:11

I would also send her to have an assessment with a behavioral optometrist to rule out any sight problems that could be hindering her work. I think this is well worth doing. She could have tracking or eye teaming problems that cause her immense strain when trying to read or write.

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